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I've been participating in this newsgroup for close to 10 years. I've
learned a lot, especially from a small group of knowledgeable and
friendly people, many of whom have left. As we know, though, it only
takes one unfriendly and domineering poster to change the whole tenor of
the group, and we've got more than one! This should be a community where
we support each other by helping each of us become better photographers
and people. You know, a place where we give each other the benefit of
the doubt, get what others say right, and where we're generally able to
have reasonable and friendly discussion. This is especially important
where there's disagreement. As it is, participating in this forum is
just an unpleasant waste of time. I for one have better things to do.

Unsubscribing,
Peter De Smidt

In article ,
Peter De Smidt pdesmidt*no*spam*@tds.*net* wrote:

I've been participating in this newsgroup for close to 10 years. I've
learned a lot, especially from a small group of knowledgeable and
friendly people, many of whom have left. As we know, though, it only
takes one unfriendly and domineering poster to change the whole tenor of
the group, and we've got more than one! This should be a community where
we support each other by helping each of us become better photographers
and people. You know, a place where we give each other the benefit of
the doubt, get what others say right, and where we're generally able to
have reasonable and friendly discussion. This is especially important
where there's disagreement. As it is, participating in this forum is
just an unpleasant waste of time. I for one have better things to do.

Unsubscribing,
Peter De Smidt

Peter I agree, but just leaving gives in to them, and is exactly is what
these people want, If you don't ignore them they will always win.
--
LF Website @ http://members.verizon.net/~gregoryblank

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918

In article ,
Peter De Smidt pdesmidt*no*spam*@tds.*net* wrote:

I've been participating in this newsgroup for close to 10 years. I've
learned a lot, especially from a small group of knowledgeable and
friendly people, many of whom have left. As we know, though, it only
takes one unfriendly and domineering poster to change the whole tenor of
the group, and we've got more than one! This should be a community where
we support each other by helping each of us become better photographers
and people. You know, a place where we give each other the benefit of
the doubt, get what others say right, and where we're generally able to
have reasonable and friendly discussion. This is especially important
where there's disagreement. As it is, participating in this forum is
just an unpleasant waste of time. I for one have better things to do.

Unsubscribing,
Peter De Smidt

Peter I agree, but just leaving gives in to them, and is exactly is what
these people want, If you don't ignore them they will always win.
--
LF Website @ http://members.verizon.net/~gregoryblank

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918

I'm sorry to read that you're leaving us. Alas over the last year I know
of a number of people that stopped following this group as the result of
all the bickering. We may need to simply stop ignoring more then just one
poster here.


Peter De Smidt pdesmidt*no*spam*@tds.*net* wrote:
: I've been participating in this newsgroup for close to 10 years. I've
: learned a lot, especially from a small group of knowledgeable and
: friendly people, many of whom have left. As we know, though, it only
: takes one unfriendly and domineering poster to change the whole tenor of
: the group, and we've got more than one! This should be a community where
: we support each other by helping each of us become better photographers
: and people. You know, a place where we give each other the benefit of
: the doubt, get what others say right, and where we're generally able to
: have reasonable and friendly discussion. This is especially important
: where there's disagreement. As it is, participating in this forum is
: just an unpleasant waste of time. I for one have better things to do.

: Unsubscribing,
: Peter De Smidt

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Keep working millions on welfare depend on you
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I'm sorry to read that you're leaving us. Alas over the last year I know
of a number of people that stopped following this group as the result of
all the bickering. We may need to simply stop ignoring more then just one
poster here.


Peter De Smidt pdesmidt*no*spam*@tds.*net* wrote:
: I've been participating in this newsgroup for close to 10 years. I've
: learned a lot, especially from a small group of knowledgeable and
: friendly people, many of whom have left. As we know, though, it only
: takes one unfriendly and domineering poster to change the whole tenor of
: the group, and we've got more than one! This should be a community where
: we support each other by helping each of us become better photographers
: and people. You know, a place where we give each other the benefit of
: the doubt, get what others say right, and where we're generally able to
: have reasonable and friendly discussion. This is especially important
: where there's disagreement. As it is, participating in this forum is
: just an unpleasant waste of time. I for one have better things to do.

: Unsubscribing,
: Peter De Smidt

--




Keep working millions on welfare depend on you
-------------------

I'm sorry to read that you're leaving us. Alas over the last year I know
of a number of people that stopped following this group as the result of
all the bickering. We may need to simply stop ignoring more then just one
poster here.


Peter De Smidt pdesmidt*no*spam*@tds.*net* wrote:
: I've been participating in this newsgroup for close to 10 years. I've
: learned a lot, especially from a small group of knowledgeable and
: friendly people, many of whom have left. As we know, though, it only
: takes one unfriendly and domineering poster to change the whole tenor of
: the group, and we've got more than one! This should be a community where
: we support each other by helping each of us become better photographers
: and people. You know, a place where we give each other the benefit of
: the doubt, get what others say right, and where we're generally able to
: have reasonable and friendly discussion. This is especially important
: where there's disagreement. As it is, participating in this forum is
: just an unpleasant waste of time. I for one have better things to do.

: Unsubscribing,
: Peter De Smidt

--




Keep working millions on welfare depend on you
-------------------

On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 11:42:26 -0500, Frank Pittel
wrote:

I'm sorry to read that you're leaving us. Alas over the last year I know
of a number of people that stopped following this group as the result of
all the bickering. We may need to simply stop ignoring more then just one
poster here.

Or you just move to www.apug.org. Apug is moderated, and real trolls
can be eliminated.


Peter De Smidt pdesmidt*no*spam*@tds.*net* wrote:
: I've been participating in this newsgroup for close to 10 years. I've
: learned a lot, especially from a small group of knowledgeable and
: friendly people, many of whom have left. As we know, though, it only
: takes one unfriendly and domineering poster to change the whole tenor of
: the group, and we've got more than one! This should be a community where
: we support each other by helping each of us become better photographers
: and people. You know, a place where we give each other the benefit of
: the doubt, get what others say right, and where we're generally able to
: have reasonable and friendly discussion. This is especially important
: where there's disagreement. As it is, participating in this forum is
: just an unpleasant waste of time. I for one have better things to do.

: Unsubscribing,
: Peter De Smidt

Gilbert
________________
www.apug.org
Nederlands forum voor
traditionele fotografie

On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 11:42:26 -0500, Frank Pittel
wrote:

I'm sorry to read that you're leaving us. Alas over the last year I know
of a number of people that stopped following this group as the result of
all the bickering. We may need to simply stop ignoring more then just one
poster here.

Or you just move to www.apug.org. Apug is moderated, and real trolls
can be eliminated.


Peter De Smidt pdesmidt*no*spam*@tds.*net* wrote:
: I've been participating in this newsgroup for close to 10 years. I've
: learned a lot, especially from a small group of knowledgeable and
: friendly people, many of whom have left. As we know, though, it only
: takes one unfriendly and domineering poster to change the whole tenor of
: the group, and we've got more than one! This should be a community where
: we support each other by helping each of us become better photographers
: and people. You know, a place where we give each other the benefit of
: the doubt, get what others say right, and where we're generally able to
: have reasonable and friendly discussion. This is especially important
: where there's disagreement. As it is, participating in this forum is
: just an unpleasant waste of time. I for one have better things to do.

: Unsubscribing,
: Peter De Smidt

Gilbert
________________
www.apug.org
Nederlands forum voor
traditionele fotografie

I share your vision on what happened in this NG during the last year, Peter,
but I second Gregory: ignore them, don't turn your back to the friendly &
helpful people. I once 'unsubscribed' too, and I only missed the good
fellows here.

Jan


"Gregory W Blank" schreef in bericht
news:Pxwdd.7093$gq2.6820@trnddc01...
| In article ,
| Peter De Smidt pdesmidt*no*spam*@tds.*net* wrote:
|
| I've been participating in this newsgroup for close to 10 years. I've
| learned a lot, especially from a small group of knowledgeable and
| friendly people, many of whom have left. As we know, though, it only
| takes one unfriendly and domineering poster to change the whole tenor of
| the group, and we've got more than one! This should be a community where
| we support each other by helping each of us become better photographers
| and people. You know, a place where we give each other the benefit of
| the doubt, get what others say right, and where we're generally able to
| have reasonable and friendly discussion. This is especially important
| where there's disagreement. As it is, participating in this forum is
| just an unpleasant waste of time. I for one have better things to do.
|
| Unsubscribing,
| Peter De Smidt
|
| Peter I agree, but just leaving gives in to them, and is exactly is what
| these people want, If you don't ignore them they will always win.
| --
| LF Website @ http://members.verizon.net/~gregoryblank
|
| "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
| or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
| is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
| to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918

I share your vision on what happened in this NG during the last year, Peter,
but I second Gregory: ignore them, don't turn your back to the friendly &
helpful people. I once 'unsubscribed' too, and I only missed the good
fellows here.

Jan


"Gregory W Blank" schreef in bericht
news:Pxwdd.7093$gq2.6820@trnddc01...
| In article ,
| Peter De Smidt pdesmidt*no*spam*@tds.*net* wrote:
|
| I've been participating in this newsgroup for close to 10 years. I've
| learned a lot, especially from a small group of knowledgeable and
| friendly people, many of whom have left. As we know, though, it only
| takes one unfriendly and domineering poster to change the whole tenor of
| the group, and we've got more than one! This should be a community where
| we support each other by helping each of us become better photographers
| and people. You know, a place where we give each other the benefit of
| the doubt, get what others say right, and where we're generally able to
| have reasonable and friendly discussion. This is especially important
| where there's disagreement. As it is, participating in this forum is
| just an unpleasant waste of time. I for one have better things to do.
|
| Unsubscribing,
| Peter De Smidt
|
| Peter I agree, but just leaving gives in to them, and is exactly is what
| these people want, If you don't ignore them they will always win.
| --
| LF Website @ http://members.verizon.net/~gregoryblank
|
| "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
| or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
| is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
| to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918