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On 05/04/2018 01:57, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:
Am Wed, 4 Apr 2018 16:59:14 +0100, schrieb David B.: Btw, the asterisk emboldening doesn't work around *numbers* in Thunderbird. Hi David B. I may owe you a sincere heartfelt public apology. snip for brevity only - all read and understood So, kudos to you for being like an adult, and sincere heartfelt apologies from me for assuming you were just another technically incompetent Apple baby who could do nothing but silly semantic games. Mea culpa. I apologize for not treating you as an adult would. I accept your apology, Ragnusen. Thank you. :-) I've looked here and note that you appear quite active:- Ragnusen Ultred https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Ra...004&bih=12 15 I'm not a 'techie' but if I *can* help you in any way, just ask. When I did my apprenticeship computers used thermionic valves (tubes!) so I do have lots of experience under my belt! ;-) -- David B. |
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On 05/04/2018 02:00, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:
Am Tue, 3 Apr 2018 19:53:33 -0700, schrieb Alan Baker: Wow, but you're tedious little twit. This is a note to David B., which is that *this* post above, from Alan Baker, is how Apple users react to simple questions. That's why I had assumed you were a similar child, since I've been on Usenet for decades, where the Apple user is almost always incapable of answering even the /simplest/ of questions, and where that Apple user always responds with hateful vitriol to facts. It's *always* the Apple poster acting like a child, which is why I was surprised David B. when you acted like an adult. My sincere apologies to David B., where he may understand the frustration that intelligent adults have with the average Apple poster such as Alan Baker is. I understand your frustration, Ragnusen. However, I'm not so sure it has to do with folk using Apple products. -- David B. |
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Am Thu, 5 Apr 2018 10:38:50 +0100, schrieb David B.:
I'm not a 'techie' but if I *can* help you in any way, just ask. When I did my apprenticeship computers used thermionic valves (tubes!) so I do have lots of experience under my belt! ;-) Much appreciated to find a fellow sentient adult on these newsgroups! Most of us were trained in the days of vacuum tubes, and we were taught how to back up our facts like intelligent adults should. http://i.cubeupload.com/tWHyBq.jpg To give you an example of my time frame, here's my iPad and phone next to one of my random textbooks (I changed fields of study a few times, both undergrad and grad, back east during the height of the cold war). http://i.cubeupload.com/nYpKZF.jpg What's amazingly different, with Apple users overall, is their historic and repeated incredibly unfathomable lack of attention to technical detail. http://i.cubeupload.com/3ffdPL.jpg Like you, I never stop learning, and it's all about detail, where, for example, here are some of my 'self-help' books in the days of the IBM PC. http://i.cubeupload.com/TLd0LW.jpg Here are a set of my more recent tecnical self-help books in engineering. http://i.cubeupload.com/pJZUtb.jpg The point is that, on these newsgroups, the average Apple user doesn't seem to have grown up yet to the point that they can fathom even the /slightest/ amount of technical detail. For example, the question asked of this thread would *never* have been answered on this newsgroup simply because the Apple users don't have that kind of technical knowledge that it takes to step outside of what "Big Brother" marketing tells them. They can only push buttons. So it's with great respect that you exist, since I'm so frustrated with these little Apple children that you can't believe. The reason I'm frustrated is that I don't know Apple products at all. I really don't. And yet, when I ask even /simple/ questions of the Apple posters, they prove time and again that they know even /less/ than I do. It happens every time. They're afraid to admit it. But it happens every time. It's so frustrating because they lie blatantly about Apple functionality. They lie more than they tell the truth, in fact. So it has come to the point that they're worthless since their accuracy rate is no better than the monkey taking the psychology test. Since I care about finding the answer, I have to go to the /adult/ newsgroups to find the answer (which is what I did in this case). I hope you can understand my frustration since I'm in the middle of the Silicon Valley where most of the people act like adults, and not like most of the people how post to this newsgroup. -- Sorry for the rambling but I have to run so I hacked that out without organizing it so it's how my mind works. |
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On 05/04/2018 15:14, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:
Am Thu, 5 Apr 2018 10:38:50 +0100, schrieb David B.: I'm not a 'techie' but if I *can* help you in any way, just ask. When I did my apprenticeship computers used thermionic valves (tubes!) so I do have lots of experience under my belt! ;-) Much appreciated to find a fellow sentient adult on these newsgroups! Most of us were trained in the days of vacuum tubes, and we were taught how to back up our facts like intelligent adults should. http://i.cubeupload.com/tWHyBq.jpg To give you an example of my time frame, here's my iPad and phone next to one of my random textbooks (I changed fields of study a few times, both undergrad and grad, back east during the height of the cold war). http://i.cubeupload.com/nYpKZF.jpg What's amazingly different, with Apple users overall, is their historic and repeated incredibly unfathomable lack of attention to technical detail. http://i.cubeupload.com/3ffdPL.jpg Like you, I never stop learning, and it's all about detail, where, for example, here are some of my 'self-help' books in the days of the IBM PC. http://i.cubeupload.com/TLd0LW.jpg Here are a set of my more recent tecnical self-help books in engineering. http://i.cubeupload.com/pJZUtb.jpg The point is that, on these newsgroups, the average Apple user doesn't seem to have grown up yet to the point that they can fathom even the /slightest/ amount of technical detail. For example, the question asked of this thread would *never* have been answered on this newsgroup simply because the Apple users don't have that kind of technical knowledge that it takes to step outside of what "Big Brother" marketing tells them. They can only push buttons. So it's with great respect that you exist, since I'm so frustrated with these little Apple children that you can't believe. The reason I'm frustrated is that I don't know Apple products at all. I really don't. And yet, when I ask even /simple/ questions of the Apple posters, they prove time and again that they know even /less/ than I do. It happens every time. They're afraid to admit it. But it happens every time. It's so frustrating because they lie blatantly about Apple functionality. They lie more than they tell the truth, in fact. So it has come to the point that they're worthless since their accuracy rate is no better than the monkey taking the psychology test. Since I care about finding the answer, I have to go to the /adult/ newsgroups to find the answer (which is what I did in this case). I hope you can understand my frustration since I'm in the middle of the Silicon Valley where most of the people act like adults, and not like most of the people how post to this newsgroup. Thank you so much for your comprehensive message, Ragnusen. I've read all with much interest. :-) Should you be unfamiliar with the *Apple Support Communities* you will find same he- https://discussions.apple.com/welcome For an example thread, you can look at one started by me (posting as HunterBD) he- https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8332293 Be sure to look in "Read All Replies" to get an overall picture. You will probably find answers to your questions if you ask there! I hope this is helpful. -- David B. |
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Ragnusen Ultred wrote: we were taught how to back up our facts like intelligent adults should. You say you only speak facts. But do you always back each with more facts like an adult? But how can this be possible given that there is an infinite series here and human life is limited? Perhaps adults come to some bedrock of facts that do not require backing up? -- dorayme |
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On 4/3/2018 11:10 AM, RJH wrote:
snip I think s/he meant tax *avoidance*. And Apple most certainly does avoid tax. As do most companies. I would argue, quite successfully, that Apple pays nothing like every tax dollar they should. "Should?" They have an obligation to their shareholders to pay only what they legally are required to pay. |
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On 06/04/2018 01:00, sms wrote:
On 4/3/2018 11:10 AM, RJH wrote: snip I think s/he meant tax *avoidance*. And Apple most certainly does avoid tax. As do most companies. Indeed. I would argue, quite successfully, that Apple pays nothing like every tax dollar they should. "Should?" They have an obligation to their shareholders to pay only what they legally are required to pay. Well, for example, they can sometimes legally set up low tax off-shore holdings to deal with (say) UK generated profit. They don't have to, and some would say that's wrong. If that 'some' is in a position of power that company may end up paying more than some notionally legal minimum. -- Cheers, Rob |
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On 04/04/2018 16:47, nospam wrote:
In article , RJH wrote: apple is paying their *legal* tax obligation. period. Insofar as I understand it, agreed. then there's absolutely no issue, is there? Yes, there is. Just because something's legal doesn't make it right. Some laws are bad, and in the UK (well, the EU) we have anti-avoidance directives coming up in January - 'to deter profit shifting to a low/no tax country'. Apple demonstrably does this, and under UK rules it should be declared as 'tax avoidance' (the return form is called a CT600 and has a 'Disclosure of tax avoidance schemes' section) so that it can be mitigated when/if. And good job too. paying *more* than what they legally owe is stupid. It may also be consistent with the makeup of the company. Just because you think it's stupid doesn't make it so. -- Cheers, Rob |
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On Wed, 4 Apr 2018 02:28:28 -0000 (UTC), Lewis
wrote: In message Mayayana wrote: "Lewis" wrote | That is a lie, they pay ever dollar they are required to, just like | everyone else. | If you want to split hairs, yes. No one's been arrested. They avoid bringing it into the country as a way of evading taxes. I think you know that. If you don't it's easy enough to find the ugly details. You characterization of this as "evading" taxes is a lie. Evading taxes is a crime. While the details vary from one country to another, there is a general agreement on the difference between avoidance and evasion. Avoidance means that you can arrange your normal business affairs so as to minimise tax. Thee is nothing illegal about this. Evasion has proved much harder to define but basically you are evading tax if you have organized you affairs via a scheme or arrangement which cannot be justified in terms of normal business but whose sole or major purpose is the avoidance of tax. If it only makes sense by virtue of it avoiding tax then it is evasion. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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On Tue, 03 Apr 2018 23:29:09 -0400, nospam
wrote: In article , Eric Stevens wrote: you are pirating it. Not necessarily. If you're downloading the tweaked versions from Adobe without actually owning a licence, then yes, you are pirating it. The instructions on Aodbe's download page specifically say you have to already own a licence. That was more or less my point. While piracy was probable it is not necessarily piracy in every case. In saying "you are pirating it" nospam had jumped to a conclusion which was not necessarily correct. nope. i explained that. the reality is that 'ultred' doesn't have a license and is pirating it. Is he even using it? he claims to have used it, however, that's irrelevant. since he never bought it in the first place, he is not entitled to legally download it. That applies to most people. and? did you have a point? no. It destroys your absolute confidence that he "is not entitled to legally download it". it doesn't destroy *anything*. in fact it's the opposite. it's proof he pirated it. While that applies to most people it does not apply to all people. i never said it did. Your logic is, as usual, faulty. I will leave you with it. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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On Wed, 4 Apr 2018 04:23:11 +0100, Ragnusen Ultred
wrote: Am Tue, 03 Apr 2018 22:28:30 -0400, schrieb nospam: just because *you* can't figure out how doesn't mean it's impossible. hehhehheh .. *Your entire belief system is comprised of fictional functionality.* More of your classic Apple Apologist denials of well-known fact. Why do the Apple Apologists deny facts & habitually fabricate imaginary content? https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.home.repair/Q2Fj-D3CWcs/e-Wtg_mlBAAJ What's so predictable about you nospam, is you incessantly fabricate fictional Apple functionality, that even you must know doesn't exist. Why do iOS apologists incessantly fabricate fictional iOS functionality? https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/K_yBNZiPFYo/yekUPvIXAwAJ Since you claim a functionality that simply doesn't exist, and you'll repeatedly and incessantly fabricate that fictional functionality, let's see if you can get a single other poster to agree with you that your entirely fictional functionality actually exists. *Your entire belief system is comprised of fictional functionality.* nospam is in the process of changing the rules. He is working around to claiming something different from the topic of discussion. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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In article , Eric Stevens
wrote: On Wed, 4 Apr 2018 04:23:11 +0100, Ragnusen Ultred wrote: just because *you* can't figure out how doesn't mean it's impossible. hehhehheh .. *Your entire belief system is comprised of fictional functionality.* More of your classic Apple Apologist denials of well-known fact. nospam is in the process of changing the rules. He is working around to claiming something different from the topic of discussion. nope. the nymshifting troll is spewing his usual garbage, as are you. |
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In article , Eric Stevens
wrote: you are pirating it. Not necessarily. If you're downloading the tweaked versions from Adobe without actually owning a licence, then yes, you are pirating it. The instructions on Aodbe's download page specifically say you have to already own a licence. That was more or less my point. While piracy was probable it is not necessarily piracy in every case. In saying "you are pirating it" nospam had jumped to a conclusion which was not necessarily correct. nope. i explained that. the reality is that 'ultred' doesn't have a license and is pirating it. Is he even using it? he claims to have used it, however, that's irrelevant. since he never bought it in the first place, he is not entitled to legally download it. That applies to most people. and? did you have a point? no. It destroys your absolute confidence that he "is not entitled to legally download it". it doesn't destroy *anything*. in fact it's the opposite. it's proof he pirated it. While that applies to most people it does not apply to all people. i never said it did. Your logic is, as usual, faulty. I will leave you with it. nope. you do realize you are trying to defend a well known troll, right? |
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nospam wrote: In article , Eric Stevens wrote: .... Your logic is, as usual, faulty. I will leave you with it. nope. you do realize you are trying to defend a well known troll, right? Defending a right position is no crime no matter where it comes from. But you would not understand this. -- dorayme |
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"Eric Stevens" wrote | While the details vary from one country to another, there is a general | agreement on the difference between avoidance and evasion. | | Avoidance means that you can arrange your normal business affairs so | as to minimise tax. Thee is nothing illegal about this. | This is the problem when too many logic enthusiasts gather in one place. They all start debating the acceptable ingredients used in official fudge sauce and neglect to taste the hot fudge sundae they're eating. Avoidance.... Evasion.... Whatever you call it, there's no debate about what Apple actually does. They've stashed hundreds of millions of dollars in offshore tax havens, specifically to avoid paying corporate taxes in the US. Timmy Cook acknowledges that. He feels that he knows what the tax rate should be (technically defined as "a pittance") and that the US gov't is simply wrong to charge more. As the High Priest of Wonderfulness, annointed by Lord Jobs Hisself, Timmy knows. So until the gov't come to their senses, he'll avoid operating as an American company as much as possible. The argument that says Apple is doing nothing wrong has nothing to do with splitting hairs over evasion and avoidance. There are two separate motives, both of which are emotionally motivated but hiding behind "logical" arguments over technicalities: 1) Some Apple fans have a religious devotion to Apple. For them it's an affiliation, not a retail product. So they can't criticize. They must support their own tribe/church. (As Windows users it's easy to underestimate that effect. But a certain percentage of Apple users really are zealots. Jobs came up with the ultimate marketing strategy: "If you follow me it means you think for yourself." :) 2) A simplistic Ayn-Randism that defends selfishness by postulating that Nature's way is basically one big game of King of the Hill, and that anyone who thinks otherwise is living in a land of rainbows and unicorns. Those are the people whose main argument is to conflate capitalism with selfishness and then use a notably fuzzy logic to say that we *should* be selfish because we live in a capitalist system.... We owe it to the shareholders to be savages.... Love it or leave it.... Etc. The same cliche "logic" gets regurgitated every time. You may sympathize or not with either of those positions, but at least enjoy your ice cream. :) |
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In article , RJH wrote:
apple is paying their *legal* tax obligation. period. Insofar as I understand it, agreed. then there's absolutely no issue, is there? Yes, there is. Just because something's legal doesn't make it right. actually, it does. paying *more* than what they legally owe is stupid. It may also be consistent with the makeup of the company. Just because you think it's stupid doesn't make it so. just because you think it's a good idea doesn't make it so. |
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In article , Mayayana
wrote: Avoidance.... Evasion.... Whatever you call it, there's no debate about what Apple actually does. there is when people don't understand it, namely you. They've stashed hundreds of millions of dollars in offshore tax havens, specifically to avoid paying corporate taxes in the US. stashed is the wrong word. apple earned those hundreds of millions of dollars *outside* the usa. just about every other international company does something similar, if not the same. |
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On 4/6/2018 10:39 AM, nospam wrote:
In article , RJH wrote: apple is paying their *legal* tax obligation. period. Insofar as I understand it, agreed. then there's absolutely no issue, is there? Yes, there is. Just because something's legal doesn't make it right. actually, it does. If you really believe that, you obviously don't know the difference between legality and morality. -- PeterN |
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Am Fri, 06 Apr 2018 08:43:19 +1000, schrieb dorayme:
You say you only speak facts. But do you always back each with more facts like an adult? But how can this be possible given that there is an infinite series here and human life is limited? Perhaps adults come to some bedrock of facts that do not require backing up? Hi dorayme, I asked a simple technical question in this thread. Did it get answered? Did I ask that _same_ technical question in the adult newsgroups. Did the adults come to a fantastically accurate fact-filled answer? What's the difference? HINT: - Do you think Jolly Roger ever speaks facts? - Or nospam? Or Lewis? Or BK@OnRamp? Or Hemidactylus? You do know what the answer is to those question, don't you? |
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In article , Ragnusen Ultred
wrote: I asked a simple technical question in this thread. Did it get answered? it did. |
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In article , PeterN
wrote: apple is paying their *legal* tax obligation. period. Insofar as I understand it, agreed. then there's absolutely no issue, is there? Yes, there is. Just because something's legal doesn't make it right. actually, it does. If you really believe that, you obviously don't know the difference between legality and morality. paying taxes isn't a moral issue. |
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Am Fri, 06 Apr 2018 01:31:10 -0400, schrieb nospam:
the nymshifting troll is spewing his usual garbage, as are you. Notice two things, as always, with the Apple Apologist nospam. 1. Yet again, nospam fabricated fictional Apple functionality. 2. When called on that fabrication by an adult ... 3. He attacks anyone calling him out on his incessant fabrications. Sound familair? Jolly Roger ... are you reading this also? And Lewis? You too. Oh, and BK@OnRamp ... yes you too. The incessant fabrication of imaginary Apple functionality is an inherently defining trait of the dozen or so Apple Apologists. |
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Am Thu, 5 Apr 2018 10:53:23 +0100, schrieb David B.:
I understand your frustration, Ragnusen. However, I'm not so sure it has to do with folk using Apple products. I think we both, David, you and me, have been on Usenet for decades, and we're both well trained in technical topics where we prove our facts. I have watched for about two decades or so, the Apple-versus-adults arguments, where it always amazed me that the Apple users unilaterally are the ones acting like children act. I pondered for years why this would be so repeatable. I don't claim to have the answer - but I do have a hypothesis. The Apple user is *drawn* to the Apple product, which Apple Marketing *differentiates* by selling the Apple user on a few promises. 1. Ease of use 2. Safety 3. Security 4. Functionality 5. Style Are those the top features that Apple Marketing "sells" to its user base? For the moment, in this post, I assume you agree (although you're welcome to explain what you think draws people to Apple products). Let's just take one of those selling points, which is "functionality", and then let's state a well-known fact: 1. There is zero app functionality on iOS that isn't on Android 2. There is tons of app functionality on Android that isn't on iOS. That's a fact. That's not a hypothesis. That's a fact. For example, my Android devices load any app launcher I want so I can organize my phone any way I want, and I have automatic phone recorders, bit torrent apps, graphical recording of wifi signal strength for all access points, accurate reporting of unique cell tower IDs, ability to put app icons whereever I want them, etc. On the other hand, in years, nobody can find a *single* iOS app functionality that isn't already on Android. Not a single one. (Sure they make claims about imaginary functionality, but they forget I also have plenty of iOS devices where their claims always fall flat when tested.) Here's just one example of their claims of imaginary iOS functionality: Android Fact: http://wetakepic.com/images/2017/10/11/2wifianalyzer.jpg Apple Fact: http://wetakepic.com/images/2017/10/11/wifi_sweetspots.jpg So why do the iOS users incessantly claim imaginary Apple functionality? I don't know why. But I hypothesize that they bought into the Marketing claims, and they never once doublechecked any facts, so, when facts are brought up to them, they react with immediate hatred and denials of what is, after all, just a fact. What do you think about that hypothesis, bearing in mind that it's based only on the Usenet experience, and not the many Apple web forums (where, in some, I myself, have written tutorials, e.g., when I first jailbroke an iOS 4 way back when AT&T was the only official carrier). |
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Am Fri, 6 Apr 2018 09:18:51 -0700, schrieb Ragnusen Ultred:
What do you think about that hypothesis, bearing in mind that it's based only on the Usenet experience, and not the many Apple web forums (where, in some, I myself, have written tutorials, e.g., when I first jailbroke an iOS 4 way back when AT&T was the only official carrier). Oops. Since the Apple posters jump on silly semantics, I meant iPhone 4, and not iOS 4 (although it might have been iOS 4 at the time). Notice that I only speak facts. The average Apple poster seems allergic to facts. It's a basic fact, for example, that iOS has zero app functionality that Android doesn't have, and that Android has tons of funcdtionaolity that iOS doesn't have - and the reason is obvious to any adult why. 1. The hardware is about the same between Apple & Android devices so it's not the hardware functionality that is limiting the app functionality. 2. Apple *limits* and *restricts* what apps can do (e.g., users can't even load apps outside the Apple hierarchy, and those apps inside the Apple hierarchy can't access the hardware features like Android apps can). Those two reasons alone will *always* results in less app functionality on iOS than on Android. Period. The fact is in the taste of the pudding in that Andoid clearly has tons of app functionality that iOS doesn't have, and there is zero app functionality on iOS that isn't on Android. That's just a fact which is a result of the restrictions put in the apps and not a result of the hardware (certainly the hardware is capable of reporting Wifi or Cellular data or recording phone calls, or organizing the home screen, etc.). All the above is fact. What's my hypothesis is why the Apple posters hate facts so much that they instantly respond with childish hateful vitriol and they claim imaginary functionality that simply doesn't exist. My hypothesis is that their entire belief system wasn't ever based on facts. *Hence facts threaten the entire underpinning of their entire belief system.* |
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On 4/6/2018 1:31 AM, nospam wrote:
In article , Eric Stevens wrote: you are pirating it. Not necessarily. If you're downloading the tweaked versions from Adobe without actually owning a licence, then yes, you are pirating it. The instructions on Aodbe's download page specifically say you have to already own a licence. That was more or less my point. While piracy was probable it is not necessarily piracy in every case. In saying "you are pirating it" nospam had jumped to a conclusion which was not necessarily correct. nope. i explained that. the reality is that 'ultred' doesn't have a license and is pirating it. Is he even using it? he claims to have used it, however, that's irrelevant. since he never bought it in the first place, he is not entitled to legally download it. That applies to most people. and? did you have a point? no. It destroys your absolute confidence that he "is not entitled to legally download it". it doesn't destroy *anything*. in fact it's the opposite. it's proof he pirated it. While that applies to most people it does not apply to all people. i never said it did. Your logic is, as usual, faulty. I will leave you with it. nope. you do realize you are trying to defend a well known troll, right? And you are feeding the same one. -- PeterN |
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On 4/6/2018 11:53 AM, nospam wrote:
In article , PeterN wrote: apple is paying their *legal* tax obligation. period. Insofar as I understand it, agreed. then there's absolutely no issue, is there? Yes, there is. Just because something's legal doesn't make it right. actually, it does. If you really believe that, you obviously don't know the difference between legality and morality. paying taxes isn't a moral issue. You did not limit your statement. -- PeterN |
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In article , PeterN
wrote: apple is paying their *legal* tax obligation. period. Insofar as I understand it, agreed. then there's absolutely no issue, is there? Yes, there is. Just because something's legal doesn't make it right. actually, it does. If you really believe that, you obviously don't know the difference between legality and morality. paying taxes isn't a moral issue. You did not limit your statement. no need. |
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On Apr 6, 2018, PeterN wrote
(in article ): On 4/6/2018 1:31 AM, nospam wrote: Le Snip you do realize you are trying to defend a well known troll, right? And you are feeding the same one. The time has come to kill this thread in rec.photo.digital as it is totally off topic, and has no reason to exist in a photo NG. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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On 06/04/2018 18:10, Savageduck wrote:
[] The time has come to kill this thread in rec.photo.digital as it is totally off topic, and has no reason to exist in a photo NG. I've just killfiled a couple of the obvious in this newsgroup (and a couple of other groups where they hang out) and it's delightful what a pleasant experience reading this newsgroup now is. If only others would refrain from replying! -- Cheers, David Web: http://www.satsignal.eu |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint withfonts?
On 06/04/2018 17:18, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:
Am Thu, 5 Apr 2018 10:53:23 +0100, schrieb David B.: I understand your frustration, Ragnusen. However, I'm not so sure it has to do with folk using Apple products. I think we both, David, you and me, have been on Usenet for decades, and we're both well trained in technical topics where we prove our facts. I have watched for about two decades or so, the Apple-versus-adults arguments, where it always amazed me that the Apple users unilaterally are the ones acting like children act. I pondered for years why this would be so repeatable. I don't claim to have the answer - but I do have a hypothesis. The Apple user is *drawn* to the Apple product, which Apple Marketing *differentiates* by selling the Apple user on a few promises. 1. Ease of use 2. Safety 3. Security 4. Functionality 5. Style Are those the top features that Apple Marketing "sells" to its user base? For the moment, in this post, I assume you agree (although you're welcome to explain what you think draws people to Apple products). Let's just take one of those selling points, which is "functionality", and then let's state a well-known fact: 1. There is zero app functionality on iOS that isn't on Android 2. There is tons of app functionality on Android that isn't on iOS. That's a fact. That's not a hypothesis. That's a fact. For example, my Android devices load any app launcher I want so I can organize my phone any way I want, and I have automatic phone recorders, bit torrent apps, graphical recording of wifi signal strength for all access points, accurate reporting of unique cell tower IDs, ability to put app icons whereever I want them, etc. On the other hand, in years, nobody can find a *single* iOS app functionality that isn't already on Android. Not a single one. (Sure they make claims about imaginary functionality, but they forget I also have plenty of iOS devices where their claims always fall flat when tested.) Here's just one example of their claims of imaginary iOS functionality: Â*Android Fact: Â*http://wetakepic.com/images/2017/10/11/2wifianalyzer.jpg Â*Apple Fact: Â*http://wetakepic.com/images/2017/10/11/wifi_sweetspots.jpg So why do the iOS users incessantly claim imaginary Apple functionality? I don't know why. But I hypothesize that they bought into the Marketing claims, and they never once doublechecked any facts, so, when facts are brought up to them, they react with immediate hatred and denials of what is, after all, just a fact. What do you think about that hypothesis, bearing in mind that it's based only on the Usenet experience, and not the many Apple web forums (where, in some, I myself, have written tutorials, e.g., when I first jailbroke an iOS 4 way back when AT&T was the only official carrier). Hello Ragnusen You have far greater Usenet experience than I do - I'd never even heard of it until I became involved with the Microsoft groups back in 2006. Most of them are listed he- http://aumha.org/nntp.htm My son once recomended that I buy an iMac after spending some time in the Apple store in Albuquerque, New Mexico in 2007/8. He loved the design and bought one in the USA - I explored in an Apple shop here in the UK and was similarly entranced. I've just recently bought a new 27 inch iMac to replace my original 24 inch machine and am truly enthralled with it's speed and fantastic picture quality. If you've not yet physically tried one, I suggest that you do so. :-) -- David B. |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint withfonts?
On 4/6/2018 3:46 PM, Lewis wrote:
In message PeterN wrote: On 4/6/2018 10:39 AM, nospam wrote: In article , RJH wrote: apple is paying their *legal* tax obligation. period. Insofar as I understand it, agreed. then there's absolutely no issue, is there? Yes, there is. Just because something's legal doesn't make it right. actually, it does. If you really believe that, you obviously don't know the difference between legality and morality. Morality doesn't enter into it. Nothing about money or finance is "moral", the idea is nonsense. Answer you deserve. -- PeterN |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
"PeterN" wrote
| Morality doesn't enter into it. Nothing about money or finance is | "moral", the idea is nonsense. | | Answer you deserve. | Just be sure not to lend this character any money. :) |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
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nospam wrote: just about every other international company does something similar, if not the same. As if that makes it ok. Another morally blind response. Do a lot of people here actually not see though you? -- dorayme |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
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Ragnusen Ultred wrote: Am Fri, 06 Apr 2018 08:43:19 +1000, schrieb dorayme: You say you only speak facts. But do you always back each with more facts like an adult? But how can this be possible given that there is an infinite series here and human life is limited? Perhaps adults come to some bedrock of facts that do not require backing up? Hi dorayme, I asked a simple technical question in this thread. Did it get answered? Did mine above by you? -- dorayme |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint withfonts?
On 03/04/2018 22:23, Lewis wrote:
In message RJH wrote: On 03/04/2018 15:57, nospam wrote: In article , Mayayana wrote: snip Exxon/Mobil has to drill oil wells, run tankers, clean up spills.... how is it that Exxon/Mobil and Apple are both near the top in profits? How is it that Apple managed to collect a $215B tax evasion stash offshore in the space of 7 years? *Billion!* That's about $30B/year. And that's only the money they're hiding to cheat on taxes. apple has not evaded paying *any* taxes. apple pays every tax dollar they owe. I think s/he meant tax *avoidance*. And Apple most certainly does avoid tax. Tax avoidance is a meaningless phrase. EVERYONE avoids taxes. That's why you file a return, to minimize your tax burden. I would argue, quite successfully, that Apple pays nothing like every tax dollar they should. That is a lie, they pay ever dollar they are required to, just like everyone else. It's not a lie. It's an opinion that's based on evidence. And is coincidentally shared by a lot of people. Not you, obvs ;-) -- Cheers, Rob |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
Am Fri, 6 Apr 2018 19:45:03 -0000 (UTC), schrieb Lewis:
I've certainly never met anyone with a religious devotion to Apple. That is something that people with a large stick up their asses like to say to justify their irrational hatred for Apple. I read everything in this ng, but normally don't comment when it goes off the technical topic, especially as i feel Apple is doing nothing wrong by making utterly insane profits, and in then trying to not pay taxes on them by legal means. But this comment, by Lewis, one of the charter members of the Apple Apologists, of all people, has just said he's never met anyone with "a religious devotion to Apple". Hehhehhehheh... that's a good one. I do thank you for that insight. Thanks. I love how "innocent" your humor is. |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
Am Sat, 07 Apr 2018 10:17:51 +1000, schrieb dorayme:
I asked a simple technical question in this thread. Did it get answered? Did mine above by you? My question was on topic. Hence, any on-topic technical question of the newsgroups infested with babies will _never_ get answered correctly. It's only on the adult newsgroups that technical topics are answered correctly and with sufficient detail to reproduce accurately. To wit: *These are empirical facts.* Q: Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts? A: No. Q: Why not? A: Lots of reasons why not. Q: What are the technical details? A: Mac MS Office can't read the embedded fonts in the Windows Office docs. A: Adobe Illustrator can't read standard MS Office PowerPoint file format. A: Adobe Illustrator can't read embedded fonts (in the Office-generated PDF). Q: What's 1 solution to work around that lack of Mac & AI functionality? A1: "Just give up" (as usual for Apple users) & load the font into the Mac. A2: Don't just give up & do all final work on the Windows system with the font. A2: Then control+v, control+a, control+shift+o to convert fonts to shapes. Then just hand the printer the Windows AI file with fonts converted to shapes. Note to dorayme: The Apple users will likely *scream* bloody murder that these aren't facts, and yet, these are the inconvenient facts that are so far beyond their technical competency, that's all they can do is scream that facts aren't facts. In general, the Apple posters on this newsgroup prove time & again: 1. They are technically incompetent, so they can't possibly be helpful. 2. Even if they were technically competent, they have no helpful intent. 3. Hence, they just guess (where they're wrong as much as the monkey is). All the Apple Apologists can do well is endless off-topic rants. Just watch (since you're one of them). |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
Am Fri, 06 Apr 2018 11:52:06 -0400, schrieb nospam:
I asked a simple technical question in this thread. Did it get answered? it did. As always, nospam, you prove in every post: 1. You have no intention to ever be helpful, and, 2. Besides, you don't have the technical expertise to be helpful, and, 3. Hence, you just guess, which makes your posts even less accurate than the monkey's posts. The question was answered in the adult newsgroup long ago. Q: Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts? A: No. There's a longer answer, of how to work around this flaw, replete with the factual details, but factual details would be completely lost on you since you prove in every post you have zero technical capacity for factual detail. |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
In article , RJH wrote:
I would argue, quite successfully, that Apple pays nothing like every tax dollar they should. That is a lie, they pay ever dollar they are required to, just like everyone else. It's not a lie. It's an opinion that's based on evidence. And is coincidentally shared by a lot of people. Not you, obvs ;-) it absolutely is a lie. the evidence is very clear that apple pays what they owe. |
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