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Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
Am Sun, 01 Apr 2018 19:17:02 -0400, schrieb nospam:
Here's a tutorial I just wrote up, for example, for the Windows users to benefit from, where I simply asked them to help me figure out why the second CD keeps being asked for. you can't even manage to pirate software without having problems. Hi nospam, As always, you prove you act like a child and not like an adult in that: a. You have zero intention to ever be helpful to anyone, and, b. Even if you did try to help, you just guess, which means, c. That your guess is about as useful to anyone as throwing dice would be. Meanwhile, on the adult helpful platform newsgroups, we solve /every/ technical question ever asked.' http://i.cubeupload.com/20nlCB.gif For example, we now have the Adobe Illustrator test case working fine with fonts, where it took a couple of additional steps because apparently the original Windows Powerpoint file had embedded fonts, which came from someone else, so I didn't have those fonts on my Windows 10 system. In just a few minutes, we solved the problem on the adult newsgroup, where this was the sequence of questions what resulted in a solution, as always. 0. I picked up a Powerpoint file from someone else which used this font: http://www.fontspace.com/michael-d-adams/roadgeek-2005 Note: I never "installed" that font, to my knowledge. 1. That PowerPoint 2007 clearly has a "Roadgeek 2005 Series B" font. http://i.cubeupload.com/1uNFmZ.gif Note: The font exists in the PowerPoint file, by some magic, even though I never "installed" that font explicitly (whatever it means to install a font). 2. That "Roadgeek 2005 Series B" set is embedded in an output PDF. http://i.cubeupload.com/FwghPH.gif 3. When I read that PDF into Adobe Illustrator, it doesn't see the font. http://i.cubeupload.com/qIAOAL.gif 4. When I try to switch fonts, AI doesn't see that font anywhere. http://i.cubeupload.com/qIAOAL.gif 5. When I go into the Windows Font directory, it's not there either. http://i.cubeupload.com/6XxE7P.gif Quick question only about how FONTS work in Windows & MS Office. Q1: So how did Powerpoint have the font in the first place? Q2: What's the process to "give" that font to the next tool that needs it? Am Sun, 1 Apr 2018 20:36:08 -0400, schrieb Bob_S: The quick answer is the PowerPoint presentation had the fonts embedded into it. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...-in-powerpoint Thanks Bob_S for that advice, The main question is why can PowerPoint embed a font and yet Adobe Illustrator can't embed a font? In that manner, this "embedding" of fonts seems to be very localized, in that PowerPoint saw it, since I never installed that font on Windows, and so did the PDF file see it, but *nothing* else saw the font (e.g., Adobe Illustrator) couldn't see the font anywhere. The way I solved the problem was the following, so that others might benefit from my first experience with such things. A. I downloaded the zip file from the Internet of the free RoadGeek fonts. B. I extracted that zip file to the following set of files. http://i.cubeupload.com/UU5aCL.gif C. I copied and pasted those extracted files to the Win10 Fonts folder. http://i.cubeupload.com/6twBO9.gif D. That copy and paste resulted in the fonts showing up in that folder. http://i.cubeupload.com/PnUglo.gif E. Then Adobe Illustrator was able to finally "see" that font. http://i.cubeupload.com/gBNu1P.gif F. With the result being that the AI file is the same now as the original. http://i.cubeupload.com/20nlCB.gif So I guess the main question with respect to fonts is why does only PowerPoint and PDF embed fonts. Why couldn't other programs, like Adobe Illustrator, just embed the fonts whatever way that PowerPoint did? |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
In article , Ragnusen Ultred
wrote: Why couldn't other programs, like Adobe Illustrator, just embed the fonts whatever way that PowerPoint did? because other apps are standards compliant. microsoft isn't. |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
Am Sun, 01 Apr 2018 21:05:24 -0400, schrieb nospam:
Why couldn't other programs, like Adobe Illustrator, just embed the fonts whatever way that PowerPoint did? because other apps are standards compliant. microsoft isn't. Hi nospam, You just guess so whatever you answer is next to worthless because your record is so dismal, the monkey finds the banana under the box more often than you are correct on these newsgroups. Since whatever you say has to be double checked, your answers are always utterly worthless, since your credibility is at about 25% to 33% correct and 75% to 66% wrong. Luckily for you, in this case you guessed correctly (as we already figured out the answer on the always helpful adult Windows newsgroup). The good news is that we *always* solve the technical question on the adult platform newsgroups, simply because of two factors: 1. Adults post on the Windows newsgroups, and, 2. They're technically competent. Hence, the following has been proven beyond any doubt, on Windows 10, using Powerpoint 2007 and Adobe Illustrator 12.0.0 with the TrueType "Roadgeek 2005 Series B" fonts embedded into both the PowerPoint file and into the PDF file output by PowerPoint using the Microsoft "Save as PDF" addins. 2007 Microsoft Office Add-in: Microsoft Save as PDF or XPS https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/down...ails.aspx?id=7 Q1: Can Win10 Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts? A1: Yes, but not directly. It takes a multi-step method. But it works. While the helpful technically competent folks on the Windows newsgroups can certainly streamline any process, we documented in detail the 1st successful multi-step method we used on the Windows group, which was: 1. Obtain & install the MS Office 2007 "Save as PDF or XPS" utility. 2. Obtain & install the "Roadgeek 2005 Series B" font set into the default Windows Font folder. 3. Obtain & install the Windows Adobe Illustrator 12.0.0 tool set. 4. Save the PowerPoint file to PDF with the entire font set embedded. 5. Attempt to read the PowerPoint directly into AI - it will fail. 6. Attempt to read the PDF into AI - fonts will fail - but keep going. 7. In AI, switch the default font to Roadgeek now in the system folder. 8. In Adobe Illustrator, save the file as a Windows "ai" format file. http://i.cubeupload.com/20nlCB.gif That test today answered almost all the questions, but two remain, which I'm sure you, nospam, will be absolutely zero help on because: a. You have proven you're not in the least technically competent, and, b. You just guess anyway, and, c. That's because you have zero helpful intent ever. While I'm sure this newsgroup doesn't have the answer to the question, we'll get that answer from the Windows adult newsgroup, which is: Q: What are the next steps to print to vinyl (where Paul already discussed the "cutContour" sequence so I just need to flesh that out a bit on my own), and, Q: Will the latest Mac Adobe Illustrator read in that Windows AI file? (chances are that it will, but it will take a simple test to figure it out). |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
In article , Ragnusen Ultred
wrote: Luckily for you, in this case you guessed correctly i don't guess. |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
On Apr 1, 2018, nospam wrote
(in ) : In , Ragnusen Ultred wrote: Luckily for you, in this case you guessed correctly i don't guess. I see the cross post has been dropped. -- Regards, Savageduck |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
In article ,
nospam wrote: Bananas are readily available but they are not generally free. That is why it can be misleading to say they are freely available. bananas are not software Another person to be added to the list of all who don't understand analogies. The pitfalls of being too literal minded! -- dorayme |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
Am Sun, 01 Apr 2018 21:51:39 -0400, schrieb nospam:
Luckily for you, in this case you guessed correctly i don't guess. Hi nospam. *Your credibility on being right on facts is utterly worthless.* In fact, your record of just guessing wrong is so dismal that very often I've told you that I could tell you're not formally educated because your credibility is worthless to you. You guess /all/ the time, where you're only right less than the monkey is when he's picking up boxes to find the bananas. What's worse, far worse in fact, that *every* answer from you has to be double checked, simply because you lie in more than half your answers (or you cleverly distort the truth, as you have done so many times that I have told you many many times that you'd be a great *defense* lawyer, but a lousy prosecutor - simply because of the burden of proof which you would never be able to sustain). You're like James Comey, which I've told you so many times when you're caught in your numerous distortions and lies that it doesn't matter /what/ you say, it's only right about as much as the monkey is right when looking for the hidden bananas under the boxes. *Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities?* https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/TOwdRyqtLF8/5wy5pRXiAQAJ Why are the half-dozen Apple-Apologist posters, like nospam & Snit, & Savageduck & Jolly Roger, & Lewis & BK@OnRamp & Joe & Alan Baker & Tim Streater, etc., unlike normal adults? I don't know why. I just know that they are. Experiments have proven time and againg that it doesn't matter who asks the question or what the question is... You, nospam, /always/ act like a child in that... 1. You have no plans on ever being helpful, 2. And, you have proven you aren't technically competent anyway, 3. So, you just guess (where the monkey and you have the same record). Luckily, for decades, on the adult newsgroups that don't have Apple posters like you on them, we solve (almost) /every/ problem every time. Proof positive is the comparison of these two threads but the number of proofs abound, even down to asking about cable strain reliefs... _High purposefully unhelpful ratio:_ *Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?* https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.photo.digital/zdVFRNwhdA8/UXTcwOiUBgAJ _High purposefully helpful ratio:_ *Can Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint & with fonts?* http://www.pcbanter.net/showthread.php?t=1103517 |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint withfonts?
On 4/1/2018 9:56 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On Apr 1, 2018, nospam wrote (in ) : In , Ragnusen Ultred wrote: Luckily for you, in this case you guessed correctly i don't guess. I see the cross post has been dropped. Um, there weren't ever any cross posts in this thread branch. Can't say the same for other branches. ~~ Note: I set a filter to detect and tag cross posts. It makes life in usenet a bit less bothersome. -- == Later... Ron C -- |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
Am Sun, 01 Apr 2018 20:03:20 -0400, schrieb nospam:
it also won't run on recent versions of windows either. adobe took the activation servers offline because there were no new customers. *As always nospam is just guessing (again).* Hence the accuracy of nospam's guesses is no better than the monkey lifting up boxes to find the bananas. *Yet again, nospam guessed wrong.* To wit, AI CS2 (version 12.0.0) worked just fine, as did Photoshop 9.0 in quick tests today on the latest 64-bit Windows 10 Creator's Edition 1709. https://u.cubeupload.com/20nlCB.gif I only speak fact which is valid and can be verified by any adult. *The credibility of nopsam's incessant guessing is utterly worthless* since you have to doubleckeck _evertyhign_ he says, because: 1. nospam has proven time & again he has no technical competency, hence, 2. nospam constantly and incessantly just lies all the time, because, 3. nospam has absolutely no desire to ever intend to be helpful to anyone. |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
On Apr 1, 2018, Ron C wrote
(in ): On 4/1/2018 9:56 PM, Savageduck wrote: On Apr 1, 2018, nospam wrote (in ) : In , Ragnusen Ultred wrote: Luckily for you, in this case you guessed correctly i don't guess. I see the cross post has been dropped. Um, there weren't ever any cross posts in this thread branch. Check the last responses from Eric Stevens, and my response to him in this thread just a little earlier today. Can't say the same for other branches. Note: I set a filter to detect and tag cross posts. It makes life in usenet a bit less bothersome. Yup! he made an OP without the cross post to start the thread on 3/28/2018, and his next post to this thread at 7:27 PM, right after your response returns to the cross post. -- Regards, Savageduck |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
In article , Ragnusen Ultred
wrote: it also won't run on recent versions of windows either. adobe took the activation servers offline because there were no new customers. *As always nospam is just guessing (again).* no he isn't. To wit, AI CS2 (version 12.0.0) worked just fine, as did Photoshop 9.0 in quick tests today on the latest 64-bit Windows 10 Creator's Edition 1709. what's missing from your claim are the hoops you jumped through to get it to run, and just because you claim to not have encountered any problems *yet* doesn't mean you won't in the future. https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2124370 CS2 didnšt even work properly on Windows Vista, especially if itšs a 64 bit version. .... I'm in the process of trying John's suggestions - again.* I don't hold out for much success.* We had run CS2 successfully on Windows 7, but the upgrade to Windows 10 killed us. https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/..._10-other_sett ings-winpc/windows-10-is-not-compatible-with-adobe/de9dc28d-7c33-447b-93 19-e1d80bd43c85 I just installed*Adobe illustrator CS2, and I found that windows 10 is not fully*compatible with the type tool, the font cannot be changed. *do anyone also have this problem? |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint withfonts?
On 4/1/2018 10:39 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On Apr 1, 2018, Ron C wrote (in ): On 4/1/2018 9:56 PM, Savageduck wrote: On Apr 1, 2018, nospam wrote (in ) : In , Ragnusen Ultred wrote: Luckily for you, in this case you guessed correctly i don't guess. I see the cross post has been dropped. Um, there weren't ever any cross posts in this thread branch. Check the last responses from Eric Stevens, and my response to him in this thread just a little earlier today. Can't say the same for other branches. Note: I set a filter to detect and tag cross posts. It makes life in usenet a bit less bothersome. Yup! he made an OP without the cross post to start the thread on 3/28/2018, and his next post to this thread at 7:27 PM, right after your response returns to the cross post. For what it's worth, here's what I'm seeing. [Cross postings are tagged with an X] https://www.dropbox.com/s/48hspudu34...n%20shot-1.jpg Nothing to/from Eric Stevens in that sub-thread. -- Later... Ron C -- |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint withfonts?
On 4/1/2018 11:28 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On Apr 1, 2018, Ron C wrote (in ): On 4/1/2018 10:39 PM, Savageduck wrote: On Apr 1, 2018, Ron C wrote (in ): On 4/1/2018 9:56 PM, Savageduck wrote: On Apr 1, 2018, nospam wrote (in ) : In , Ragnusen Ultred wrote: Luckily for you, in this case you guessed correctly i don't guess. I see the cross post has been dropped. Um, there weren't ever any cross posts in this thread branch. Check the last responses from Eric Stevens, and my response to him in this thread just a little earlier today. Can't say the same for other branches. Note: I set a filter to detect and tag cross posts. It makes life in usenet a bit less bothersome. Yup! he made an OP without the cross post to start the thread on 3/28/2018, and his next post to this thread at 7:27 PM, right after your response returns to the cross post. For what it's worth, here's what I'm seeing. [Cross postings are tagged with an X] https://www.dropbox.com/s/48hspudu34wtnq6/Screen%20shot-1.jpg Nothing to/from Eric Stevens in that sub-thread. Strange, what I see in the screenshot you posted were several Eric Stevens posts tagged with ZzzzX. I hadnt tagged crossposts in Hogwasher, and here are the contributions to the threadthat I see. https://www.dropbox.com/s/ahqj28s6slc4a38/screenshot_286.png |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
Am Sun, 01 Apr 2018 22:45:11 -0400, schrieb nospam:
what's missing from your claim are the hoops you jumped through to get it to run, *Again, you just make everything up, nospam.* _Hence, you're right no more than is the monkey looking for his bananas._ I realize nopsam is always purposefully unhelpful and that he plays his incessant silly childish games, but there must be adults on this newsgroup so I will patiently summarize what the adults on the Windows newsgroup suggested to test whether Adobe Illustrator could read the PDF with fonts (it can't) and then how to easily overcome that limitation. *Tested today on the latest 64-bit Windows 10 Pro, version 1709.* 1. Download, unzip, and install Adobe Illustrator, version 12.0.0. https://www.techspot.com/downloads/4948-adobe-creative-suite-free.html 2. Open the PDF file to swap the default 1 font to Roadgeek 2005 Series B http://i.cubeupload.com/M873ot.gif 3. The next step is to print to vinyl at a size of 12x18 inches. https://u.cubeupload.com/Ma3cnk.gif If there are adults on this r.p.d newsgroup, may I ask two related questions (given that I don't have a Mac & I don't have a vinyl-cutout printer) Q1: Do you think the ai-format file saved from Adobe Illustrator version 12.0.0 on Windows will be readable by a current version of Mac Adobe Illustrator? Q2: Do you know Adobe Illustrator well enough to suggest what steps are necessary (if any) to print to a vinyl-cutout printer? -- Please: If you're going to act like a child in responding, just do us all a favor and don't respond as this question is an on-topic valid question for someone who has the file at this stage, but no Mac and no vinyl cutout printer. Only someone technically competent can answer this question. |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
In article , Ragnusen Ultred
wrote: Q1: Do you think the ai-format file saved from Adobe Illustrator version 12.0.0 on Windows will be readable by a current version of Mac Adobe Illustrator? that's already been answered. Q2: Do you know Adobe Illustrator well enough to suggest what steps are necessary (if any) to print to a vinyl-cutout printer? yes i do. |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint withfonts?
On 4/1/2018 11:28 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On Apr 1, 2018, Ron C wrote (in ): On 4/1/2018 10:39 PM, Savageduck wrote: On Apr 1, 2018, Ron C wrote (in ): On 4/1/2018 9:56 PM, Savageduck wrote: On Apr 1, 2018, nospam wrote (in ) : In , Ragnusen Ultred wrote: Luckily for you, in this case you guessed correctly i don't guess. I see the cross post has been dropped. Um, there weren't ever any cross posts in this thread branch. Check the last responses from Eric Stevens, and my response to him in this thread just a little earlier today. Can't say the same for other branches. Note: I set a filter to detect and tag cross posts. It makes life in usenet a bit less bothersome. Yup! he made an OP without the cross post to start the thread on 3/28/2018, and his next post to this thread at 7:27 PM, right after your response returns to the cross post. For what it's worth, here's what I'm seeing. [Cross postings are tagged with an X] https://www.dropbox.com/s/48hspudu34wtnq6/Screen%20shot-1.jpg Nothing to/from Eric Stevens in that sub-thread. Strange, what I see in the screenshot you posted were several Eric Stevens posts tagged with ZzzzX. I hadnt tagged crossposts in Hogwasher, and here are the contributions to the threadthat I see. https://www.dropbox.com/s/ahqj28s6slc4a38/screenshot_286.png The section I highlighted in yellow is the SUB-thread you were responding to. There are no direct links to any cross posted sub-threads in that section. Just follow the thread link lines in my screen shot. -- == Later... Ron C -- |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
On Apr 1, 2018, Ron C wrote
(in ): On 4/1/2018 11:28 PM, Savageduck wrote: On Apr 1, 2018, Ron C wrote (in ): On 4/1/2018 10:39 PM, Savageduck wrote: On Apr 1, 2018, Ron C wrote (in ): On 4/1/2018 9:56 PM, Savageduck wrote: On Apr 1, 2018, nospam wrote (in ) : In , Ragnusen Ultred wrote: Luckily for you, in this case you guessed correctly i don't guess. I see the cross post has been dropped. Um, there weren't ever any cross posts in this thread branch. Check the last responses from Eric Stevens, and my response to him in this thread just a little earlier today. Can't say the same for other branches. Note: I set a filter to detect and tag cross posts. It makes life in usenet a bit less bothersome. Yup! he made an OP without the cross post to start the thread on 3/28/2018, and his next post to this thread at 7:27 PM, right after your response returns to the cross post. For what it's worth, here's what I'm seeing. [Cross postings are tagged with an X] https://www.dropbox.com/s/48hspudu34wtnq6/Screen%20shot-1.jpg Nothing to/from Eric Stevens in that sub-thread. Strange, what I see in the screenshot you posted were several Eric Stevens posts tagged with ZzzzX. I hadnât tagged crossposts in Hogwasher, and here are the contributions to the threadthat I see. https://www.dropbox.com/s/ahqj28s6slc4a38/screenshot_286.png The section I highlighted in yellow is the SUB-thread you were responding to. There are no direct links to any cross posted sub-threads in that section. Just follow the thread link lines in my screen shot. Thatâs OK, just so you are aware that the âposter with many nymsâ will cross post to disrupt whenever he can, and Eric responded to one of those cross posts, leaving the OP to wonder where Eric had come from. Eric isnât one to lurk in comp.sys.mac.apps. -- Regards, Savageduck |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
Am Sun, 01 Apr 2018 21:19:10 -0700, schrieb Savageduck:
That˙s OK, just so you are aware that the ´poster with many nymsĄ will cross post to disrupt whenever he can, and Eric responded to one of those cross posts, leaving the OP to wonder where Eric had come from. Eric isn˙t one to lurk in comp.sys.mac.apps. *Savageduck proves yet again he possesses the mind of a child.* His own statements prove, beyond any doubt, that Savageduck can't comprehend that someone would want privacy from header aggregators on the Internet, where I never hide who I am. Remember, none of this silly childish crap happens on the *adult* newsgroups, where I post as frequently, and perhaps even more so, than the groups that contain the Apple Bigots such as Savageduck always proves himself to be. Neither Savageduck, nor nospam, nor anyone else who knows me (as I've been on Usenet for decades), can't tell in the first sentence who I am, simply because I don't hide it (and I don't even try). _Savageduck's own statements *prove* that he has the mind of a child!_ Savageduck can only comprehend the chitchat model on Usenet, which is what he uses, while I use the Q&A model, which is completely different. For Savageducks' chitchat model (which many people use), he posts essentially 95% to other people's threads and only 5% to his own, since that's what defines the chitchat model. For the Q&A model, (which I use), I post 95% to threads I opened, and only 5% (if that) to other people's threads, since I'm asking a question and only seeking the answer (which I always summarize so that the tribal knowledge is leveraged to all). BTW, speaking of that, whom do you think *created* the URL for this ng? http://tinyurl.com/rec-photo-digital Do you think Savageduck created it? HINT: He didn't. I did. Years ago. So long ago, it could be a decade for all I remember. And everyone has leveraged it ever since. Just for like the iOS, Android, Windows, Linux, etc., newsgroups. Did Savageduck do *anything* like that for the team? Hell no. It wouldn't occur to him to do work to help everyone else. *Back to the Q&A Usenet model that Savageduck so naively decries.* In the chitchat model that Savageduck uses, WHO you are is far more important that WHAT you write. That's simply becuase you chit and chat almost withoutj thinking. You don't prove anything. You don't have to. It's just idle chitchat (some people call it the "coffeeshop" model). In the Q&A model that Savageduck *repeatedly* proves he can't possibly comprehend, WHAT you write is far more important thaN WHO you are. All that matters in the Q&A model are two things: 1. The subject line 2. The body That's all you need to ask a question, and then receive answers, and then test all the viable answers, and to respond to all viable concerns, and then to summarize the results, where we (almost) *always* solve the technical problem. I've been on Usenet for decades, where I've had to explain this to Savageduck time and again, where Savageduck has the racist attitude that many people have, which I summarize, pointedly as.... Savageduck thinks as if all Blacks are hoodlums; Savageduck thinks as if all Jews are greedy; Savageduck thinks as if all Italians are in the mafia; Savageduck thinks as if all Germans are racist, Savageduck thinks as if all women are sluts; Savageduck thinks as if all teachers are pedophiles, etc. The point is to make it clear, yet again, for the umpteenth time to Savageduck that merely being black doesn't make you a hoodlum; merely being Jewish doesn't make you greedy; merely being Italian doesn't make you a mobster; etc. And merely wanting privacy doesn't make you a troll. I have had to explain this to Savageduck so many times, that I realized, years ago, that Savageuck is completely incapable of *comprehending* anything that adults normally comprehend. Savageduck clearly exhibits the mind of the classic racists, in that he accuses people of being what they're not, simply becuase they desire privacy from automatic header aggregators. Remember, *none* of this childish crap that Savageduck and the other Apple Bigots do happens on the adult newsgroups that don't have these Apple posters on them. It's only the half-dozen Apple Bigots, where I've already proven many times that Savageduck is one of them. Sadly to say. Hence... *Savageduck yet again proves he possesses the mind of a child.* |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
On Apr 1, 2018, Ragnusen Ultred wrote
(in article ): Am Sun, 01 Apr 2018 21:19:10 -0700, schrieb Savageduck: Thatďż˝s OK, just so you are aware that the ďż˝poster with many nymsďż˝ will cross post to disrupt whenever he can, and Eric responded to one of those cross posts, leaving the OP to wonder where Eric had come from. Eric isnďż˝t one to lurk in comp.sys.mac.apps. *Savageduck proves yet again he possesses the mind of a child.* Rant snipped. ....and there the âposter with many nymsâ goes with his typical insulting diatribe. I attempted to give him the benefit of doubt with my first response to his original query in this thread (the second one I believe), and he certainly did not respond to that because it did not suit him to do so. So the time has come to KF himin r.p.d. as I have done in the Mac, and iOS NGs, where I only see his psychotic musings in the responses of others. -- Regards, Savageduck |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
On 2018-04-02 02:04:49 +0000, dorayme said:
In article , nospam wrote: Bananas are readily available but they are not generally free. That is why it can be misleading to say they are freely available. bananas are not software Another person to be added to the list of all who don't understand analogies. The pitfalls of being too literal minded! With the spreading of banana disease, bananas may not be readily available much longer. |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
Am Wed, 28 Mar 2018 20:07:22 -0700, schrieb Ragnusen Ultred:
1. Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a PowerPoint file from Windows? 2. If yes, can't it get the font out of the embedded font in the PPT file? SOLVED: Thanks for all your help, particularly from Paul, Neill, J. P. Gilliver (John), Jonathan N. Little, & Char Jackson on the Windows newsgroups. To give back to the team, here is a first-pass solution that can be leveraged to others in the future via the tribal knowledge archives at http://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-os-windows-10 http://www.pcbanter.net/showthread.php?t=1103517 http://tinyurl.com/alt-windows7-general http://www.pcbanter.net/showthread.php?t=1103524 This thread basically went nowhere mainly because Apple posters were involved, but one or two people were helpful so it bears mention: http://tinyurl.com/rec-photo-digital https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.photo.digital/zdVFRNwhdA8 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- SUMMARY: (sufficient to understand the main steps) a. Install desired roadsign fonts (includes arrows, graphics, & text) b. Install desired software (Microsoft Office & Adobe Illustrator) c. Obtain desired 12x18-inch sign template d. Modify template as desired by a score of different people on their PCs e. Combine those modifications into a single file f. Output PDF with embedded fonts from that file g. Read that embedded-font PDF into Adobe Illustrator h. Substitute the roadsign system fonts where necessary i. Print to a vinyl-cutting 12"x18" sign printer ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- DETAILS: (sufficient for anyone to reproduce) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 0. The test case is a powerpoint file expected to be provided as a single-page template to edited by more than a score of individuals, each of whom owns Microsoft Office and knows how to use it where all were instructed to modify the template text and graphics as they see fit, with the exception that the bottom (legal) line and outside border and black color must remain intact for consistency. https://u.cubeupload.com/pK8NQE.gif Those score of individual pages were to be assembled into one large multi-page file, which is to be provided to the printers who will print to vinyl using Mac Adobe Illustrator, and who will apply the vinyl to precut pre-drilled white aluminum 12-inch by 18-inch road sign blanks. Note that the entire font set is embedded in the PowerPoint file which allows the users to add approved arrows, text, & other graphics: http://www27.zippyshare.com/v/H5GDdHA1/file.html (signs.pptx) Note that the entire font set is also embedded in the PDF file: http://www27.zippyshare.com/v/abXkQMAN/file.html (signs.pdf) Where the PDF file is what will be input into Adobe Illustrator (because Adobe Illustrator does not accept Powerpoint files): http://blog.globalizationpartners.com/using-pdf-in-illustrator-when-source-files-are-lost.aspx Note also that the Office 2007 file is sized at 12-inches by 18-inches: OfficeRibbon Design Page Setup Width=12 inches, Height=18 inches http://i.cubeupload.com/mALZ03.gif This will result in the same size of 12x18 inches in Adobe Illustrator: http://i.cubeupload.com/Ma3cnk.gif ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Obtain & install the "Roadgeek 2005 Series B" font set. http://www.fontspace.com/michael-d-adams/roadgeek-2005/ Note: The only font file in that set you need is the 44KB file: "Roadgeek 2005 Series B.ttf" See the appendix for Windows font-installation procedures. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2. Obtain & install the MS Office 2007 "Save as PDF or XPS" utility. 2007 Microsoft Office Add-in: Microsoft Save as PDF or XPS https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/down...ails.aspx?id=7 Just run the SaveAsPDFandXPS.exe after installing Office 2007. Note: Microsoft has discontinued support so you may need to use a wayback link to find this (or a previously archived file). ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3. Download the 4 files from: https://www.techspot.com/downloads/4...uite-free.html ----- Name: CreativeSuiteCS2Disc1.exe Size: 375638402 bytes (358 MB) SHA256: 36DACE2549BDE94D7A45281380EEF453FD2AF38EDA19348FA3 DE567549A696EC SHA1: 1538166046E59DB6098F75C3196E84AD9310DEA1 ----- Name: CreativeSuiteCS2Disc2.exe Size: 427451410 bytes (407 MB) SHA256: 5862668CA45C0196777D3D4E2108D0A6F0750F6965769CB573 0944D3520DBB54 Size: 427451410 bytes (407 MB) SHA1: D06911267603474B43F3F39E4B00029787173962 ----- Name: CreativeSuiteCS2Disc3.exe Size: 346373903 bytes (330 MB) SHA256: C662F1C431FAA33160523545FDA3BD58F29ED3616CB8E6D183 5CCE810AD5AB30 SHA1: 54BA48723D657E4A86903ED2C876381488C8F945 ----- Name: CS_2.0_WWE_Extras_1.exe Size: 431237012 bytes (411 MB) SHA256: 921402DA55BFEF5E6E21DE2261F725FFE0A451153F453000FB 3152635E1161BE SHA1: 1C6CC05D49244ED1417B3E2C3136D4FD0B7F57E0 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4. Unpack by right clicking & selecting 7Zip unpack to (choose the default): ----- CreativeSuiteCS2Disc1.exe unpacks with 7Zip to .\CreativeSuiteCS2Disc1\Adobe Creative Suite 2.0\. .\CreativeSuiteCS2Disc1\Design Guide.pdf .\CreativeSuiteCS2Disc1\How To Install.html .\CreativeSuiteCS2Disc1\How to Uninstall.pdf .\CreativeSuiteCS2Disc1\Read Me First.html ----- CreativeSuiteCS2Disc2.exe unpacks with 7Zip to .\CreativeSuiteCS2Disc2\Adobe InDesign CS2\. .\CreativeSuiteCS2Disc2\Adobe Version Cue CS2\. ----- CreativeSuiteCS2Disc3.exe unpacks with 7Zip to .\CreativeSuiteCS2Disc3\Adobe Creative Suite 2.0\. ----- CS_2.0_WWE_Extras_1.exe unpacks with 7Zip to .\CS_2.0_WWE_Extras_1\Adobe Solutions Network\. .\CS_2.0_WWE_Extras_1\Documentation\. .\CS_2.0_WWE_Extras_1\Goodies\. .\CS_2.0_WWE_Extras_1\Technical Information\. Most people will likely just doubleclick on the downloaded files to unpack: CreativeSuiteCS2Disc1.exe CreativeSuiteCS2Disc2.exe CreativeSuiteCS2Disc3.exe CS_2.0_WWE_Extras_1.exe But I right clicked and selected the 7Zip unpacker to unpack them, because doubleclicking on them creates folders in your root hierarchy, and I wanted to keep all the folders in the location I keep installers. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5. Combine all files and directories into a single directory: (Put all the folders should be in the same folder as Setup.exe is!) .\CreativeSuite\CS2\Adobe Creative Suite 2.0\Setup.exe (Otherwise you'll get incessant prompts for CD 2!) These are the 4 main folders to ensure are in the same location: .\Adobe Creative Suite 2.0\Setup.exe .\Adobe Creative Suite 2.0\Adobe Illustrator CS2\. .\Adobe Creative Suite 2.0\Adobe Photoshop CS2\. .\Adobe Creative Suite 2.0\Adobe InDesign CS2\. .\Adobe Creative Suite 2.0\Adobe Version Cue CS2\. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6. Run the "Setup.exe" installer for the Adobe Create Suite 2 set: Tested on Windows 10 Pro, version 1709. .\CreativeSuite\CS2\Adobe Creative Suite 2.0\Setup.exe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7. You'll get a warning that "QuickTime 6 is required to use the multimedia features in the Adobe Creative Suite 2", which you can ignore. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8. Then it will require a Name (default = "Windows User") & serial number. Name: Windows user Company: blank Serial Number 1130 1414 7569 4457 6613 5551 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9. It will default to C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe It says it will use up 2.62GB I put mine in C:\app\editor\pic\cs2 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10. There will be a choice of what components to install: [x] Adobe Illustrator CS2 (600MB) [x] Adobe InDesign CS2 (400MB) [x] Adobe Photoshop CS2 and Adobe ImageReady CS2 (450MB) [x] Adobe Version Cue CS2 (300MB) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11. Note: If you don't put all the folders in the same directory, it will start installing and then ask: "Please insert CD 2 to continue installation" where if you hit the "OK" button, it will ask forever for that CD 2. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12. If you need to re-run the installer, don't worry. After you doubleclick again on "Setup.exe", Up pops an option to "Change/Remove the Adobe Creative Suite 2" with the two options: (_) Install, Re-install, or Uninstall Individual Adobe CS2 Components (o) Uninstall all Adobe Creative Suite 2 Components You can just switch that default to: (0) Install, Re-install, or Uninstall Individual Adobe CS2 Components (_) Uninstall all Adobe Creative Suite 2 Components ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13. At that time, a form came up to "Change Individual Components", saying: Please select the components of the Adobe Creative Suite 2 to modify. Adobe Illustrator CS2 (600MB) Adobe InDesign CS2 (400MB) Adobe Photoshop CS2 & Adobe ImageReady CS2 (450MB) Adobe Version Cue CS2 (300MB) Where your 3 possible choices for each item a [No Change - Not Installed] or [Install] or [Re-Install] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14. You won't get any desktop shortcuts, so you need to look for the executables of interest to make shortcuts to them for all but Adobe Illustrator which will have a shortcut created for you. Adobe Illustrator CS2 (600MB) C:\editor\app\pic\cs2\Adobe Illustrator CS2\Adobe Illustrator CS2.lnk Right clicking on the shortcut to select properties shows: Target: "C:\app\editor\pic\cs2\Adobe Illustrator CS2\Support Files\Contents\Windows\Illustrator.exe Open In: "c:\app\editor\pic\cs2\Adobe Illustrator CS2\Support Files\Contents\Windows\" Adobe InDesign CS2 (400MB) "C:\app\editor\pic\cs2\Adobe InDesign CS2\InDesign.exe" Adobe Photoshop CS2 & Adobe ImageReady CS2 (450MB) "C:\editor\app\pic\cs2\Adobe Photoshop CS2\Photoshop.exe" Adobe Version Cue CS2 (300MB) "C:\app\editor\pic\cs2\Adobe Version Cue CS2\bin\VersionCueCS2.exe" ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15. I started Adobe Illustrator 12.0.0 on Windows 10 Creator's Edition. C:\editor\app\pic\cs2\Adobe Illustrator CS2\Adobe Illustrator CS2.lnk ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16. To edit the PDF file that was output from PowerPoint 2007, which used only the RoadGeek TrueType font and had the entire font set embedded, run this command in Adobe Illustrator: AI: File Open signs.pdf ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17. You'll get the following message, to which you click "OK": The document contains PDF objects that have been reinterpreted. The font 1 is missing. Affected text will be displayed using a substitute font. http://i.cubeupload.com/cV87Aa.gif This pretty much proves that Adobe Illustrator doesn't respect the fonts which Windows PowerPoint 2007 embedded in the PDF file. http://i.cubeupload.com/cV87Aa.gif Note that you see the word "Strokes" in the GUI: http://i.cubeupload.com/DaYBLG.gif ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18. To "Find and replace the missing font in Adobe Illustrator", AI: Type Find Font And then change the "Document" to "System" where AI asks: Fonts in Document: 1* Change from: Replace with Font From: [Document] Change to: Replace with Font From: [System] Then change the font from: 1* Then change the font to: Roadgeek 2005 Series B As shown below before I select the Roadgeek font out . http://i.cubeupload.com/K6cBu8.gif Then hit "Change All" and then "Done". Which results in the perfectly faithful result after selecting the Roadgeek font. http://i.cubeupload.com/CnFAUN.gif https://u.cubeupload.com/M873ot.gif And the fantastically beautiful result after I select the Roadgeek font. http://i.cubeupload.com/CnFAUN.gif In short, I am *confused* about that first step whether "strokes" (whatever they are) are involved, but it doesn't matter because I can substitute in the Roadgeek font and then it looks fantastically perfect in the Roadgeek-font layout! http://i.cubeupload.com/RHsHn5.gif Note: This file is needed in the Windows System Font folder: "Roadgeek 2005 Series B.ttf" ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19. Save the file as an Adobe AI-format file for use in AI on the Mac. Note: AI-format files do not seem to "embed" fonts. In Adobe Illustrator, save the file as a Windows "ai" format file. AI: File Save As Adobe Illustrator (*.AI) signs.ai A dialog box comes up to which you can say OK: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20. Save the file as an Adobe PDF-format file for use in AI on the Mac. Note: The Adobe Illustrator PDF also do not seem to "embed" fonts. In Adobe Illustrator, save the file as a Windows "ai" format file. AI: File Save As Adobe PDF (*.PDF) signs_ai.pdf http://i.cubeupload.com/20nlCB.gif A dialog box comes up to which you can say OK: http://i.cubeupload.com/4EuM07.gif There are many options, one of which is "Advanced" which said "Fonts": "Subset fonts when percent of characters used is less than 100%" whatever that means, but then it also said, below that in small print: *"All fonts with appropriate permission bits will be embedded"* http://i.cubeupload.com/p7qEWG.gif So, you'd _think_ the fonts are embedded given that there are no restrictions noted on the download site that are relevant. However, if you subsequently *delete* the associated Roadgeek Windows System Fonts and re-load the PDF into Adobe Illustrator, it will complain about the missing fonts. "Font Problems: Roadgeek2005SeriesB: Default font substituted for missing font. This document "signs.pdf" uses fonts or characters which are not available or are in a different format than originally specified. Do you still wish to open this document?" http://i.cubeupload.com/SdNyIh.gif When you open it, you don't have your fonts anymo http://i.cubeupload.com/wHCGuc.gif ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21. At this point, you want to look at what formats you can export that will have the font 'embedded' in them. The "AI: File Export" options don't look promising: This list is: AutoCAD Drawing (*.DWG) AutoCAD Interchange File (*.DXF) BMP (*.BMP) Enhanced Metafile (*.EMF) JPEG (*.JPG) Macintosh PICT (*.PCT) Macromedia Flash (*.SWF) Photoshop (*.PSD) PNG (*.PNG) Targa (*.TGA) Text Format (*.TXT) As shown below: http://i.cubeupload.com/tunL4e.gif ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- How to install the RoadGeek font set in Windows 10 Pro System Font folder: 0. Starting with this PowerPoint file: http://www27.zippyshare.com/v/H5GDdHA1/file.html (signs.pptx) 1. Which has, embedded in it, these Roadgeek 2005 Series B TT fonts: http://www.fontspace.com/michael-d-adams/roadgeek-2005 2. Anyone on Windows can see & edit the file with those fonts in MS Office: http://i.cubeupload.com/1uNFmZ.gif Because Windows Microsoft Office "understands" those embedded fonts, arrows, and other roadsign symbols. Note: Mac Microsoft Office will *not* understand Windows-embedded fonts. 3. That "Roadgeek 2005 Series B" set is also embedded in the output PDF. http://i.cubeupload.com/FwghPH.gif http://www27.zippyshare.com/v/abXkQMAN/file.html (signs.pdf) 4. When I read that PDF into Adobe Illustrator, AI doesn't see the font. http://i.cubeupload.com/qIAOAL.gif 5. When I try to switch fonts, AI doesn't see that font anywhere. http://i.cubeupload.com/qIAOAL.gif 6. When I go into the Windows Font directory, it's not there either. http://i.cubeupload.com/6XxE7P.gif 7. So I downloaded the zip file from the Internet of the free RoadGeek fonts. http://www.fontspace.com/michael-d-adams/roadgeek-2005/ 8. I extracted that zip file to the following set of files. http://i.cubeupload.com/UU5aCL.gif 9. I copied and pasted those extracted files to the Win10 Fonts folder. http://i.cubeupload.com/6twBO9.gif 10. That copy and paste resulted in the fonts showing up in that folder. http://i.cubeupload.com/PnUglo.gif 11. Then Adobe Illustrator was able to finally "see" that font. http://i.cubeupload.com/gBNu1P.gif 12. With the result being that the AI file is the same now as the original. http://i.cubeupload.com/20nlCB.gif Note: If you are reading in the PDF for the first time into AI, then you will need to run the following additional font-substitution steps: A. This is what AI says when it reads in the Powerpoint-saved PDF: The document contains PDF objects that have been reinterpreted. The font 1 is missing. Affected text will be displayed using a substitute font. So on the one hand, that implies a *font* was substituted ... http://i.cubeupload.com/cV87Aa.gif B. However, on the other hand, I do see "strokes" listed in the GUI. http://i.cubeupload.com/DaYBLG.gif C. So it's confusing whether fonts or strokes are initially used, but it does seem that the font is substituted when I run the command: AI: Type Find Font as shown below before I select the Roadgeek font. http://i.cubeupload.com/K6cBu8.gif D. And the fantastically beautiful result after I select the Roadgeek font. http://i.cubeupload.com/CnFAUN.gif E. In short, I am *confused* about that first step whether "strokes" (whatever they are) are involved, but it doesn't matter because I can substitute in the Roadgeek font and then it looks perfect in the Roadgeek-font layout! http://i.cubeupload.com/RHsHn5.gif ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
Am Sun, 01 Apr 2018 23:20:03 -0700, schrieb Savageduck:
Rant snipped. ...and there the Ąposter with many nyms˘ goes with his typical insulting diatribe. I attempted to give him the benefit of doubt with my first response to his original query in this thread (the second one I believe), and he certainly did not respond to that because it did not suit him to do so. So the time has come to KF himin r.p.d. as I have done in the Mac, and iOS NGs, where I only see his psychotic musings in the responses of others. Savageduck, *When you act like an adult, you won't be told you act like a child.* You cry now that you acted like an adult momentarily, and then you immediately fell back into your comfortable ways of acting like a child. When you acted like an adult acts, you didn't hear me say a word. I simply called you a child for the act that was that of a child. *We have dealt with your childish crybaby racist crap for years.* You seem to think that because you actually act like an adult once in this thread and then you act like the child the rest of the time, that you are immune to being called out on the fact that you act like a child acts. It doesn't work that way Savageduck. When you act like an adult, we'll know (yes, I noticed). When you act like a child, we'll know that too. You can't cry now that because you acted like a adult in one post *before* you fell back into your old ways of acting like a child, that we shouldn't call you out on that. *When you act like an adult, you won't be told you act like a child.* |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint withfonts?
On 3/28/2018 8:07 PM, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint & with fonts? I have someone making signs for me on a vinyl style printer where she says she can't read in the Microsoft Powerpoint and fonts, even though I've embedded the entire truetype set (not just what's used in the document) in the PowerPoint file. I don't have a Mac nor Adobe Illustrator to test it out, but can't Illustrator just read in the PowerPoint file with the fonts? She says it can't do either, so she has to re-create the sign from a JPEG which seems pretty ridiculous to me but I don't know the technology at all since I have never done it. It's basically two question: 1. Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a PowerPoint file from Windows? 2. If yes, can't it get the font out of the embedded font in the PPT file? When I send signs out to be made I just print the file out to a high-resolution JPEG in the same ratio of height and width that I want. I have been using Visio to make signs, which exports directly to a JPEG in whatever resolution you specify. There is also PDFcreator which will print to a JPEG from any program http://download.cnet.com/PDFCreator/3000-18497_4-10558866.html. I was running into similar problems with fonts from other programs not transferring, I didn't realize that it was probably due to the person on the other end using a Mac. I think that they preferred a camera ready JPEG anyway. |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
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wrote: When I send signs out to be made I just print the file out to a high-resolution JPEG in the same ratio of height and width that I want. that will not produce the best results. I was running into similar problems with fonts from other programs not transferring, I didn't realize that it was probably due to the person on the other end using a Mac. it's not the mac that was the problem. whatever software you were using is at fault. I think that they preferred a camera ready JPEG anyway. they might accept a jpeg, but they certainly don't prefer that for signs. |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
Am Mon, 2 Apr 2018 06:58:06 -0700, schrieb sms:
When I send signs out to be made I just print the file out to a high-resolution JPEG in the same ratio of height and width that I want. I have been using Visio to make signs, which exports directly to a JPEG in whatever resolution you specify. There is also PDFcreator which will print to a JPEG from any program http://download.cnet.com/PDFCreator/3000-18497_4-10558866.html. I was running into similar problems with fonts from other programs not transferring, I didn't realize that it was probably due to the person on the other end using a Mac. I think that they preferred a camera ready JPEG anyway. Hi sms, You know me well so you know I only speak fact. You bring up a reasonable point that the *fonts* are part of the problem, where we *SOLVED* this issue quite easily, with help from technically competent purposefully helpful people. A JPEG, as you suggest, certainly will "work" just as almost anything will work (even scribbling the design on the back of a napkin will suffice); so if a BMP or JPEG or GIF is all that you have, then it's fine. But we found a perfect solution which solves the actual endpoint problems that we had, which were out of my control, namely: 1. A score of people had to work on the file (without installing fonts!) 2. The shop is on Adobe Illustrator (which can't read embedded fonts!) We had an additional "psychological" issue with the shop (which is a bunch of high-school kids), in that they were "pretending" there was a "layout" effort, when we proved during the course of the thread on the adult newsgroups that there is none. Here is an email we recently received from the manager of that shop in response to my question of why they use Mac Adobe Illustrator: "The Vinyl Cutter uses a cut extension through Adobe Illustrator, thus the need to format the art through Illustrator. We program what is cut through Illustrator. Your pdf files will work fine. I have to install the fonts you gave, which is no big deal. Changing the fonts so that the cut is easy. No new layout work will need to be done." Given that the two starting points are perfect for the situation: 1. PowerPoint is the *perfect* layout tool for a score of people who don't want to and don't need to deal with fonts, and, 2. Adobe Illustrator on the Mac is the end point for just as practical a reason. The greatest news is that, on the Windows ng, we proved one powerful thing! *There is almost zero manual layout effort*! The only manual "layout effort" required is the minute it takes to download and install the font set into the Mac and then to point to the Roadgeek 2005 Series B font once the PDF is opened in Adobe Illustrator. That there is zero layout effort is a big deal, because it tells us both that PowerPoint was the *perfect* input format (since nobody had to install fonts and everyone had it and everyone knew how to use it), and that the shop was handing us mush for an explanation, much like nopspam constantly does. Once I showed the shop that there was zero manual layout involved, the shop finally admitted the truth (much like how nospam works). Until they admitted truth, for them to claim manual layout meant: a. Either they were incredibly stupid, or, b. They were being duplicitious. The reason I know that is the same reason I know that nospam is always that way, which is that it's a simple fact that zero manual layout is needed if we hand them the PowerPoint-created PDF. The *only* manual layout needed is to load the fonts into the system and point the Adobe Illustrator to that Roadgeek 2005 Series B font. On the Windows newsgroup, we proved this fact beyond a shadow of a doubt. Now all the obtuse explanations make complete sense. They were acting like nospam does. Aside from the fact they admitted last night they were telling us a fib (but only when we proved it first), there's another astoundingly huge takeaway from this process, which is that PowerPoint is the absolutely *perfect* tool for this job, not only because we have a score of people editing the same file, but because that file can have the fonts *embedded* (which is something Adobe Illustrator can't do!). So, there are two huge takeaways that we learned in this solution. 1. PowerPoint is the *best* format possible for the layout task, and, 2. Adobe Illustrator has almost literally zero manual layout required! A "gotcha" in that process is that you have to accept that while embedding fonts in Windows MS Office documents provides a *huge* advantage for us (luckily, nobody was on the Mac or they would have found that the process fails miserably on MS Office on the Mac!) - that embedding is *not* respected by Adobe Illustrator on either Windows or the Mac. Luckily, the only two people (actually three) who need to know that a A. The person who created the PowerPoint needed to embed the font set. B. The shop using Adobe Illustrator needs to install the font set. C. Any homeowner on the Mac would also be forced to install the font set (where, luckily, we didn't run into this Mac-only extra problem because the score of people are all on Windows MS Office). Thanks for all the adult help to arrive at that simple, and yet powerful factually supported conclusion, where I thank everyone for being an adult, and especially Paul for enabling the empirically derived solution by his diligent and always-purposefully-helpful research and experiments. Thanks! None of this is intuitive; it takes someone with technical experience to answer even these simple question, which, at this point, are all resolved! A. The shop wasn't telling the truth... (which they admitted last night)... B. PowerPoint is the absolutely *fantastic* choice for this layout task... C. A PowerPoint-created PDF is also *perfect* for the final transfer task... C. Adobe Illustrator requires *zero* manual layout effort reading that PDF.... D. The only manual task is due to the inability of Adobe Illustrator to understand the embedded fonts in the incoming PDF document. |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
In article , Ragnusen Ultred
wrote: But we found a perfect solution which solves the actual endpoint problems that we had, which were out of my control, namely: 1. A score of people had to work on the file (without installing fonts!) and they haven't a clue what they're doing. 2. The shop is on Adobe Illustrator (which can't read embedded fonts!) illustrator most certainly can read embedded fonts. it might not be able to read the crap you are supplying but that's because you have no idea what you're doing and creating non-standard pdfs, not a flaw in illustrator. in other words, user error. We had an additional "psychological" issue with the shop (which is a bunch of high-school kids), in that they were "pretending" there was a "layout" effort, when we proved during the course of the thread on the adult newsgroups that there is none. they weren't pretending. they know way more about how to do it correctly than you ever will. Given that the two starting points are perfect for the situation: 1. PowerPoint is the *perfect* layout tool for a score of people who don't want to and don't need to deal with fonts, and, you just said it wasn't a layout effort. now you say it is. further proof you have *no* idea what you're even doing. not only that, but powerpoint is *not* a layout app and one key reason you're having so much trouble. 2. Adobe Illustrator on the Mac is the end point for just as practical a reason. that reason being that illustrator is designed to do what you claim to want to do and does it quite well. as i said before, even an inexperienced graphics artist could have done the entire task it in a couple of minutes, and with much better results too. |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint withfonts?
On 02/04/2018 09:27, Ragnusen Ultred tried to highlight a sentence:-
*When you act like an adult, you won't be told you act like a child. That doesn't 'work'. Moving the asterisk DOES 'work'! *When you act like an adult, you won't be told you act like a child*. I hope that helps. :-) |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint withfonts?
On 02/04/2018 03:13, Ragnusen Ultred tried to highlight this sentence -
and failed. *Your credibility on being right on facts is utterly worthless.* Moving the right-hand side asterisk will improve matters, thus:- *Your credibility on being right on facts is utterly worthless*. HTH :-) |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
Am Mon, 02 Apr 2018 13:44:21 -0400, schrieb nospam:
they weren't pretending. they know way more about how to do it correctly than you ever will. Staying on technical track, and being purposefully helpful isn't your strength, nospam. Meanwhile, to add on topic purposefully helpful value, I report the following for the tribal record to archive for future users to benefit. The shop has instantly been far more responsive now that I provided them with the Adobe Illustrator file, where they emailed how I could eliminate the need for them to load the font altogether, which I reproduce below for the tribal knowledge record to benefit. "You can embed a font in AI, by turning the font into a shape. 1) Select the font with the black arrow tool. 2) Go to the TYPE drop down menu at the top of the AI app. 3) Select "create outlines". You would do this as you very last step ... after the layout was correct and everything was spelled & set up correctly." I tried it and was successful, where I outline the steps in more detail: 1. I started Windows Adobe Illustrator 12.0.0 (from the CS2 suite) 2. I opened the PDF from PowerPoint into Adobe Illustrator (AI) 3. In AI, I ran "AI: Type Find Font" to find all the fonts 4. In that form I changed "Document" to "System" Fonts in Document: 1* Change from: Replace with Font From: [Document] Change to: Replace with Font From: [System] Then change the font from: 1* Then change the font to: Roadgeek 2005 Series B Then hit "Change All" and then "Done" 5. The Adobe Illustrator layout is now perfectly faithful to the original 6. In AI, I pressed "V" to get into the selection tool. 7. In AI, I pressed "Control+A" to select everything. 8. In AI, I pressed "Control+Shift+O" to create outlines 9. In AI, I pressed "Save As" to saved the *outlined.ai file 10. In AI, I also saved as a PDF to create the *outlined.pdf file 11. I checked with Ai: Type "Find Fonts" 12. That showed there were no longer any fonts in the document Voila! No fonts needed. A perfect layout. No manual layout required whatsoever in Adobe Illustrator. Just load the file, and print it to vinyl. Efficiency at last! |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
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wrote: Efficiency at last! it's not efficient at all. efficient is launch illustrator (and not a pirated version), create the sign and submit it to the print shop. |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
Am Mon, 02 Apr 2018 15:17:48 -0400, schrieb nospam:
Efficiency at last! it's not efficient at all. Notice that you just *guess* nospam, and you guessed wrong. Again. I only speak fact which any sentient adult can easily verify. The efficiency is tremendous - but - as you are aware - you can't get this functionality on the Mac. The efficiency is only available on Windows. 0. Only one person has to deal with fonts, and that's the creator of the Windows MS Office document, a screenshot of which is produced here. http://i.cubeupload.com/pK8NQE.gif *Template Creator* 1. That one template is mailed to a score of neighbors, all of whom are on Windows, none of whom have to deal with installing fonts. All they need to do is use the embedded font functionality (not available on the Mac) where they're instructed to modify anything they want except the bottom line and the outside border. Notice that the score of users doesn't have any learning curve whatsoever, and they can still collaborate (as long as they're not on the Mac) perfectly efficiently. *Many People* 2. They each mail an assembler (who happens to be me but it could just as well have been the original creator) the updates, who assembles them into a single PPT file with embedded fonts, and then who saves them as a PDF (since Adobe Illustrator can't read PowerPoint files), where the assembler hands the shop the final layout. *Print Shop* 3. The shop reads in the PDF into Mac Adobe Illustrator, substitutes the default font to the Roadgeek 2005 Series B font, and voila, the layout is perfect inside of AI, where it can then be printed to the Vinyl Cutter using a cut extension in Adobe Illustrator. How can any sentient adult object to this tremendous efficiency? Only you object to the efficiency. Why? I don't know why. I suspect your objections to efficiency could be as simple as you know *the Mac doesn't have this collaborative functionality* |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
In article , Ragnusen Ultred
wrote: The efficiency is tremendous it isn't - but - as you are aware - you can't get this functionality on the Mac. The efficiency is only available on Windows. nonsense. |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
Am Mon, 02 Apr 2018 16:18:15 -0400, schrieb nospam:
The efficiency is tremendous it isn't - but - as you are aware - you can't get this functionality on the Mac. The efficiency is only available on Windows. nonsense. Again, you can only guess. And you guessed wrong. Any sentient adult can follow the efficiency logic of the *facts*. http://i.cubeupload.com/pK8NQE.gif 1. One *Template Creator* works on the original 2. Many *People Collaborate* on faithful copies 3. One *Print Shop* prints the faithful layout I suspect your objections to efficiency could be as simple as you know what all Mac owners know, which is that *you just can't do this using the Mac". |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
In article , Ragnusen Ultred
wrote: I suspect your objections to efficiency could be as simple as you know what all Mac owners know, which is that *you just can't do this using the Mac". nonsense. not only can it be done on a mac, but more efficiently with fewer steps than your cluster**** solution *and* produce higher quality results. it can even be done on an ipad or iphone. you refuse to admit it because: troll. |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
On Sun, 01 Apr 2018 19:17:03 -0400, nospam
wrote: In article , Eric Stevens wrote: from the freely available Windows version of Adobe Illustrator. illustrator is not free nor has it ever been free. "freely available" does not mean that it's "free". It may have been better if Ragnusen Ultred had written "readily available". no difference. Bananas are readily available but they are not generally free. That is why it can be misleading to say they are freely available. bananas are not software They are nouns. So too is 'Adobe illustrator'. My statement was concerned with the use/misuse of the English language. you are pirating it. Not necessarily. yes necessarily. Even if he already has a license? he doesn't and you know it. I've ploughed through much of his junk and found nothing to suggest that he has a copy of Illustrator, let alone that he has pirated it. As far as I can tell the discussion is in the general case, in which case neither the presence or absence of a license can be assumed. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
On Sun, 01 Apr 2018 19:29:16 -0400, nospam
wrote: In article , Eric Stevens wrote: from the freely available Windows version of Adobe Illustrator. illustrator is not free nor has it ever been free. "freely available" does not mean that it's "free". It may have been better if Ragnusen Ultred had written "readily available". you are pirating it. Not necessarily. If you're downloading the tweaked versions from Adobe without actually owning a licence, then yes, you are pirating it. The instructions on Aodbe's download page specifically say you have to already own a licence. That was more or less my point. While piracy was probable it is not necessarily piracy in every case. In saying "you are pirating it" nospam had jumped to a conclusion which was not necessarily correct. nope. i explained that. the reality is that 'ultred' doesn't have a license and is pirating it. Is he even using it? -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
In article , Eric Stevens
wrote: from the freely available Windows version of Adobe Illustrator. illustrator is not free nor has it ever been free. "freely available" does not mean that it's "free". It may have been better if Ragnusen Ultred had written "readily available". no difference. Bananas are readily available but they are not generally free. That is why it can be misleading to say they are freely available. bananas are not software They are nouns. good point. all nouns are distributed in the same way software is. another hour or so and my groceries should be finished downloading. So too is 'Adobe illustrator'. My statement was concerned with the use/misuse of the English language. as well it should, since you greatly misused it. you are pirating it. Not necessarily. yes necessarily. Even if he already has a license? he doesn't and you know it. I've ploughed through much of his junk and found nothing to suggest that he has a copy of Illustrator, exactly the point. let alone that he has pirated it. since it's clear that he never bought cs2, downloading it is pirating it. he also has admitted to pirating a wide variety of other stuff, so this is not any sort of surprise. As far as I can tell the discussion is in the general case, in which case neither the presence or absence of a license can be assumed. assumed is the wrong word. no assumptions are necessary. based on what he's written in this thread and countless others, it's *quite* clear what he's doing. |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
In article , Eric Stevens
wrote: you are pirating it. Not necessarily. If you're downloading the tweaked versions from Adobe without actually owning a licence, then yes, you are pirating it. The instructions on Aodbe's download page specifically say you have to already own a licence. That was more or less my point. While piracy was probable it is not necessarily piracy in every case. In saying "you are pirating it" nospam had jumped to a conclusion which was not necessarily correct. nope. i explained that. the reality is that 'ultred' doesn't have a license and is pirating it. Is he even using it? he claims to have used it, however, that's irrelevant. since he never bought it in the first place, he is not entitled to legally download it. |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint withfonts?
On 4/2/2018 5:31 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Sun, 01 Apr 2018 19:29:16 -0400, nospam wrote: In article , Eric Stevens wrote: from the freely available Windows version of Adobe Illustrator. illustrator is not free nor has it ever been free. "freely available" does not mean that it's "free". It may have been better if Ragnusen Ultred had written "readily available". you are pirating it. Not necessarily. If you're downloading the tweaked versions from Adobe without actually owning a licence, then yes, you are pirating it. The instructions on Aodbe's download page specifically say you have to already own a licence. That was more or less my point. While piracy was probable it is not necessarily piracy in every case. In saying "you are pirating it" nospam had jumped to a conclusion which was not necessarily correct. nope. i explained that. the reality is that 'ultred' doesn't have a license and is pirating it. Is he even using it? The post says that he is creating the sign in Powerpoint and that it needs to read by Illustrator in the Mac. I need to dig out my copy of Illustrator which I bought many years ago at a previous job. I probably used it twice, but I needed to have it for a specific task. It probably won't even work with WIndows 10. There are some programs that I've found hard to believe they are still being used. Corel Draw is the format that many laser cutters require. |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
On Mon, 02 Apr 2018 20:39:48 -0400, nospam
wrote: In article , Eric Stevens wrote: from the freely available Windows version of Adobe Illustrator. illustrator is not free nor has it ever been free. "freely available" does not mean that it's "free". It may have been better if Ragnusen Ultred had written "readily available". no difference. Bananas are readily available but they are not generally free. That is why it can be misleading to say they are freely available. bananas are not software They are nouns. good point. all nouns are distributed in the same way software is. another hour or so and my groceries should be finished downloading. The sentence under discussion says nothing about downloading. So too is 'Adobe illustrator'. My statement was concerned with the use/misuse of the English language. as well it should, since you greatly misused it. This from the guy who thinks that parsing applies only to software. you are pirating it. Not necessarily. yes necessarily. Even if he already has a license? he doesn't and you know it. I've ploughed through much of his junk and found nothing to suggest that he has a copy of Illustrator, exactly the point. So we don't know either way. let alone that he has pirated it. since it's clear that he never bought cs2, downloading it is pirating it. Has he downloaded it? he also has admitted to pirating a wide variety of other stuff, so this is not any sort of surprise. As far as I can tell the discussion is in the general case, in which case neither the presence or absence of a license can be assumed. assumed is the wrong word. no assumptions are necessary. Where is your evidence? based on what he's written in this thread and countless others, it's *quite* clear what he's doing. The clarity is an inference. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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