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On 4 Jul 2018 14:10:33 GMT, sms wrote:

In the U.S., there is no law that you can't take pictures of anyone, any
house, any car, from the public right-of-way. The mapping companies
voluntarily blur out license plate numbers, faces, and house numbers,
because it upsets some people to have those things clearly visible. It
creeps some people out to have someone taking pictures of them or their
house or their car.

My understanding, mostly from misc.legal.moderated and rec.photo.digital
discussions in the distant past, is that what you say about the ability to
take photos of anything you can see in public in the USA is essentially
true ... except, as I recall, there are corner cases, such as when there is
an "expectation of privacy" by a "reasonable" person.

I don't remember the court case details, but, for example, if you stand on
the sidewalk with a telephoto lens peeking into a neighbor's bathroom
window, that might be one of those 'expectations of privacy' corner cases.

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On 07/04/2018 04:01 PM, Arlen Holder wrote:
On 4 Jul 2018 14:10:33 GMT, sms wrote:

In the U.S., there is no law that you can't take pictures of anyone, any
house, any car, from the public right-of-way. The mapping companies
voluntarily blur out license plate numbers, faces, and house numbers,
because it upsets some people to have those things clearly visible. It
creeps some people out to have someone taking pictures of them or their
house or their car.

My understanding, mostly from misc.legal.moderated and rec.photo.digital
discussions in the distant past, is that what you say about the ability to
take photos of anything you can see in public in the USA is essentially
true ... except, as I recall, there are corner cases, such as when there is
an "expectation of privacy" by a "reasonable" person.

I don't remember the court case details, but, for example, if you stand on
the sidewalk with a telephoto lens peeking into a neighbor's bathroom
window, that might be one of those 'expectations of privacy' corner cases.


(Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV.)

Generally, it's what _you_ can see from a public area. Not what _you_
plus a telephoto lens, or a ladder, etc. can see from a public street or
sidewalk. Likewise, magnifying the image to be able to see what's behind
the bathroom window would be out because _you_ (with your naked eye)
can't magnify a portion of the scene.

OTOH, if someone builds an all-glass bathroom, at street level, three
feet from the sidewalk of a busy street, they have pretty much given up
their expectation of privacy. And probably run afoul of zoning.

--
Ken Hart

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On 7/4/2018 4:01 PM, Arlen Holder wrote:
On 4 Jul 2018 14:10:33 GMT, sms wrote:

In the U.S., there is no law that you can't take pictures of anyone, any
house, any car, from the public right-of-way. The mapping companies
voluntarily blur out license plate numbers, faces, and house numbers,
because it upsets some people to have those things clearly visible. It
creeps some people out to have someone taking pictures of them or their
house or their car.

My understanding, mostly from misc.legal.moderated and rec.photo.digital
discussions in the distant past, is that what you say about the ability to
take photos of anything you can see in public in the USA is essentially
true ... except, as I recall, there are corner cases, such as when there is
an "expectation of privacy" by a "reasonable" person.

I don't remember the court case details, but, for example, if you stand on
the sidewalk with a telephoto lens peeking into a neighbor's bathroom
window, that might be one of those 'expectations of privacy' corner cases.



There very well may be more than simply issues of expectation of
privacy. Also, the laws may very well vary from one jurisdiction to
another. There are also practical considerations. The photography rules
of the Triborough Bridge and Tunnel Authority in new York City, come to
mind. And are but one example. If it is important to you, consult an
attorney, who's practice concentrates in that area of the law. Do not
rely in Internet BS.

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PeterN

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On 6 Jul 2018 20:24:30 GMT, PeterN wrote:

There very well may be more than simply issues of expectation of
privacy. Also, the laws may very well vary from one jurisdiction to
another. There are also practical considerations. The photography rules
of the Triborough Bridge and Tunnel Authority in new York City, come to
mind. And are but one example. If it is important to you, consult an
attorney, who's practice concentrates in that area of the law. Do not
rely in Internet BS.

You bring up a point in that I had pulled over to the side of the road in
NY on the throughway where a cop told me that I couldn't take pictures of
the beautiful foliage.

He didn't give me a ticket - but he said it was illegal.

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In article , Arlen Holder
wrote:


There very well may be more than simply issues of expectation of
privacy. Also, the laws may very well vary from one jurisdiction to
another. There are also practical considerations. The photography rules
of the Triborough Bridge and Tunnel Authority in new York City, come to
mind. And are but one example. If it is important to you, consult an
attorney, who's practice concentrates in that area of the law. Do not
rely in Internet BS.

You bring up a point in that I had pulled over to the side of the road in
NY on the throughway where a cop told me that I couldn't take pictures of
the beautiful foliage.

He didn't give me a ticket - but he said it was illegal.

he was wrong. there is nothing illegal about taking photos of trees.

however, pulling over may have been a ticketable offense.

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On Jul 6, 2018, nospam wrote
(in ) :

In , Arlen Holder
wrote:


There very well may be more than simply issues of expectation of
privacy. Also, the laws may very well vary from one jurisdiction to
another. There are also practical considerations. The photography rules
of the Triborough Bridge and Tunnel Authority in new York City, come to
mind. And are but one example. If it is important to you, consult an
attorney, who's practice concentrates in that area of the law. Do not
rely in Internet BS.

You bring up a point in that I had pulled over to the side of the road in
NY on the throughway where a cop told me that I couldn't take pictures of
the beautiful foliage.

He didn't give me a ticket - but he said it was illegal.

he was wrong. there is nothing illegal about taking photos of trees.

however, pulling over may have been a ticketable offense.

On the NY State Thruway stopping for other than an emergency could well be a
ticketable offense (subject to the tale told the officer, and whether, or not
the attitude test is passed). Taking a photo of the scenery is not classified
as an emergency.

Why do we have this cross post here in r.p.d.?

I guess I didn’t really need to ask considering the OP. ;-)

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Savageduck

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In article .com,
Savageduck wrote:

There very well may be more than simply issues of expectation of
privacy. Also, the laws may very well vary from one jurisdiction to
another. There are also practical considerations. The photography rules
of the Triborough Bridge and Tunnel Authority in new York City, come to
mind. And are but one example. If it is important to you, consult an
attorney, who's practice concentrates in that area of the law. Do not
rely in Internet BS.

You bring up a point in that I had pulled over to the side of the road in
NY on the throughway where a cop told me that I couldn't take pictures of
the beautiful foliage.

He didn't give me a ticket - but he said it was illegal.

he was wrong. there is nothing illegal about taking photos of trees.

however, pulling over may have been a ticketable offense.

On the NY State Thruway stopping for other than an emergency could well be a
ticketable offense (subject to the tale told the officer, and whether, or not
the attitude test is passed). Taking a photo of the scenery is not classified
as an emergency.

yep. that's my point.

Why do we have this cross post here in r.p.d.?

I guess I didn¹t really need to ask considering the OP. ;-)

yep.

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On 7 Jul 2018 02:49:05 GMT, Savageduck wrote:

Taking a photo of the scenery

While Savageduck is a well-known moronic troll who has never once added
on-topic value to any technical thread in his entire life, here are the
actual laws related to photography in NY State:
https://everydayaperture.com/law/

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On Jul 7, 2018, Arlen Holder wrote
(in article ):

On 7 Jul 2018 02:49:05 GMT, Savageduck wrote:

Taking a photo of the scenery

While Savageduck is a well-known moronic troll who has never once added
on-topic value to any technical thread in his entire life, here are the
actual laws related to photography in NY State:
https://everydayaperture.com/law/

I expected that sort of response from you, including your editing to change
the context of my post.

To start with what you originally stated was:
"You bring up a point in that I had pulled over to the side of the road in NY
on the throughway where a cop told me that I couldn't take pictures of the
beautiful foliage.

He didn't give me a ticket - but he said it was illegal.�

None of that had anything to do with photography laws, or rules in NYC, or NY
State. As nospam said; “There is nothing illegal about taking photos of
trees."

Considering that my remark to nospam was:

"On the NY State Thruway stopping for other than an emergency could well be a
ticketable offense (subject to the tale told the officer, and whether, or not
the attitude test is passed). Taking a photo of the scenery is not classified
as an emergency.�

My question to you is; What did the officer say was illegal, taking a
photograph, or making a non-emergency stop on the NY State ThruWay?

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Savageduck

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On 07/07/2018 08:44 AM, Arlen Holder wrote:
On 7 Jul 2018 02:49:05 GMT, Savageduck wrote:

Taking a photo of the scenery

While Savageduck is a well-known moronic troll who has never once added
on-topic value to any technical thread in his entire life, here are the
actual laws related to photography in NY State:
https://everydayaperture.com/law/


You must be new here.

Savageduck is quite knowledgeable about photography and digital
manipulation of images to get the best possible results.

While his images and methods may not be my methods (I shoot film), if I
were to start using digital, I would buy him a case of beer, just to get
him to talk photography.

SD is also retired law enforcement, so he would have some knowledge of
the law.

--
Ken Hart