Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint & with fonts?
I have someone making signs for me on a vinyl style printer where she says she can't read in the Microsoft Powerpoint and fonts, even though I've embedded the entire truetype set (not just what's used in the document) in the PowerPoint file. I don't have a Mac nor Adobe Illustrator to test it out, but can't Illustrator just read in the PowerPoint file with the fonts? She says it can't do either, so she has to re-create the sign from a JPEG which seems pretty ridiculous to me but I don't know the technology at all since I have never done it. It's basically two question: 1. Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a PowerPoint file from Windows? 2. If yes, can't it get the font out of the embedded font in the PPT file? |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
In article , Ragnusen Ultred
wrote: Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint & with fonts? illustrator is the same on both platforms and can open a wide variety of formats, except that powerpoint is not one of them (no surprise there). https://helpx.adobe.com/illustrator/...mats-illustrat or.html I have someone making signs for me on a vinyl style printer where she says she can't read in the Microsoft Powerpoint and fonts, even though I've embedded the entire truetype set (not just what's used in the document) in the PowerPoint file. powerpoint is the *wrong* tool for making signs, which you were told the last time you asked about that (and subsequently ignored all of the advice). *start* with illustrator. otherwise, save the powerpoint as pdf and open that. |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
On Mar 28, 2018, Ragnusen Ultred wrote
(in article ): Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint & with fonts? I have someone making signs for me on a vinyl style printer where she says she can't read in the Microsoft Powerpoint and fonts, even though I've embedded the entire truetype set (not just what's used in the document) in the PowerPoint file. I don't have a Mac nor Adobe Illustrator to test it out, but can't Illustrator just read in the PowerPoint file with the fonts? She says it can't do either, so she has to re-create the sign from a JPEG which seems pretty ridiculous to me but I don't know the technology at all since I have never done it. Since we all know who is who in this pond I will accept your query as genuine, but I am weary of all you post. It's basically two question: 1. Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a PowerPoint file from Windows? Sort of, but first there is no Mac Adobe Ilustrator. Currently there is Adobe Illustrator CC for Win and Mac, and is available for monthly subscription. https://www.adobe.com/products/illustrator.html As to how a PPT file can be read into Ai there are a few steps to be followed: https://youtu.be/-1gCwdRwIsY https://www.free-power-point-templat...-to-convert-a- powerpoint-presentation-to-a-vector-image/ https://pptxtreme.com/powerpoint-to-photoshop-and-back-on-your-mac/ 2. If yes, can't it get the font out of the embedded font in the PPT file? https://yourbusiness.azcentral.com/m...s-illustrator- 4813.html Probably, if you follow some of the tips above. Personally, with my interest in photography rather than design, or illustration I do not use Ai just Lightroom CC, and Photoshop CC along with some othe photography centric software. If I want to open a PPT file, or presentation on my Mac I use Keynote. -- Regards, Savageduck |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
"Ragnusen Ultred" wrote
| Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint & with fonts? | Please cross-post if necessary, rather than multi-posting. Your question is being answered in the Win10 group. The consensus seems to be: Convert the PPT to PDF. (In MS Office, or failing that, in Libre Office.) Import the PDF into Illustrator. |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
Am Thu, 29 Mar 2018 08:48:34 -0400, schrieb Mayayana:
Your question is being answered in the Win10 group. The answer is different on the two platforms since the entire set of truetype embedded fonts are involved. I would ask on the Mac group, but it's filled to the brim with little children who have almost no technical competency so it would be a waste to ask there, whereas adults reside here who own a Mac, and the Windows group is always adults as can be seen by the responses there. Moving forward, I'm leaning toward PDF, DOC, or WMF, but I don't think WMF can embed the fonts (I never worked with WMF). |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
Am Thu, 29 Mar 2018 07:15:31 -0700, schrieb Ragnusen Ultred:
Moving forward, I'm leaning toward PDF, DOC, or WMF, but I don't think WMF can embed the fonts (I never worked with WMF). Quick update. Forget WMF. The PPT to WMF output looks nothing like the originals. So it's only PDF and DOC/RTF (and other image-file formats) that are left that AI will read in directly, but the DOC/RTF seems to only be the text and not the graphics, so, without a 'converter' program of some type, Microsoft Word DOC files are not feasible. PDF with embedded fonts is the main option, it seems, although the MAC Windows suite can't handle embedded fronts in Windows documents but I'm not sure about whether the Mac Adobe Illustrator can handle embedded fonts in PDF documents. Another option, which came up on the helpful Windows newsgroup, is to convert the font text to curves using this option (assuming the no-longer-available MS Office 2007 plugin is already installed). Office Logo Save As (choose PDF) Tools Publish Tools contains these subsections a. Map Network Drive... b. Save Options... c. General Options... d. Web Options... e. Compress Pictures... In the "Save Options...", there is A. Popular B. Proofing C. Save D. Advanced E. Customize F. Trust Center G. Resources Under "Advanced" is a "Print" section, and under that is: [_]Print TrueType fonts as graphics However, I just ran a quick test, where the results of looking at a small "e" zoomed tightly on saving to PDF with and without that option doesn't seem to make any realistic difference at the size of two-inch letters typical of road signs. http://i.cubeupload.com/3Zbidh.gif -- Assumes "SaveAsPDFandXPS.exe" is already installed: 2007 Microsoft Office Add-in: Microsoft Save as PDF or XPS https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/down...ails.aspx?id=7 |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
In article , Ragnusen Ultred
wrote: Your question is being answered in the Win10 group. The answer is different on the two platforms since the entire set of truetype embedded fonts are involved. no it isn't, since illustrator is the same on both platforms. I would ask on the Mac group, but it's filled to the brim with little children who have almost no technical competency troll attempt confirmed. |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
Am Thu, 29 Mar 2018 15:39:01 -0400, schrieb nospam:
troll attempt confirmed. I only speak valid verified fact that any adult can verify for himself. What's confirmed, time and again, is that once any of the Apple-based child-like posters, such as you, nosmap, and Jolly Roger, Lewis, BK@OnRamp, Alan Baker, Tim Streator, etc. infest a technical-question thread, it's dead. Witness, for example, the *immense* progress the Windows adults made on the same question, by the same poster, at the same time, with many excellent technical questions and answers resolved by adults. Can Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint & with fonts? http://www.pcbanter.net/showthread.php?t=1103517 On the adult platform newsgroup, we not only proved out all the necessary steps, the adults there also found where to get the AI software (apparently for free but I need to doublecheck that), with a valid Windows license, using the valid free TT fonts, and outputing and inputting the right file formats, and running the requisite steps inside the free AI tool suite: 1. Import the AI format file into AI CS2 2. Use the CutContour command 3. Use the embedded fonts 4. Print to vinyl On the Mac group, which, for decades, has been proven time and again to be filled to the brim with child-like responses to any technical question they don't like, the valid technical question wouldn't likely have received a *single* purposefully helpful technical answer, and as a result of the children who are proven time and again to infest the Apple newsgroups, the thread would have been miles long, getting nowhere, as this simple Mac question recently was. Can a Mac edit an iOS file over WiFi without iTunes existing on the Mac? https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.sys.mac.system/qjSmqEa-P8k/khhfEbzBAAAJ What's going on? I don't know, but it seems that simply asking a technical question that Apple users don't like results in them purposefully destroying the thread with their childish rants. Examples abound where this thread simply supplies valid verified proof: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.sys.mac.system/HS86K5NJBgU/zcn_LvqcBgAJ Notice, as that thread proves, on the Windows and Linux newsgroups, we ask the same questions as we ask on the Apple newsgropus, and lo and behold, adults answer the same question by *purposfully* providing helpful answers. Fancy that. It's only the select set of, admittedly prolific, Apple posters, who, over the decades, have proven time and again that they're incapable of handling technical questions they don't like, as adults would. There is so much proof on the net that these Apple-based half-dozen or so posters purposfully ruin any technical thread they don't like, that you may as well assume any thread that they, or you infest, is dead the moment you join it. Like what happened to this thread, the moment you joined it. Luckily, adults are proven to exist on the other newsgroups, so fantastic technical progress was made despite the child-like Apple posters that you represent. Proof positive is he Can Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint & with fonts? http://www.pcbanter.net/showthread.php?t=1103517 |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
Am Thu, 29 Mar 2018 08:48:34 -0400, schrieb Mayayana:
Please cross-post if necessary, rather than multi-posting. Your question is being answered in the Win10 group. The consensus seems to be: Convert the PPT to PDF. (In MS Office, or failing that, in Libre Office.) Import the PDF into Illustrator. Hi Mayayana, By now, you realize why you can't have any Apple users on any thread where you actually expect three things: a. Technical competency b. Purposefully helpful responses c. On-topic technical responses Over the past two decades, that maxim has held out in spades, where recent experiments show that it doesn't even matter /what/ the topic is, if the Apple users are involved, it devolves instantly into childish drivel. I was wrong when I thought the Apple children just didn't like facts that were 'inconvenient' for them, such as anything truthful about either iOS or the Mac OS. I know this because I ran an experiment earlier this week about cable strain relief, where I purposefully asked the same question, not as me, of a set of non-Apple newsgroups, and a set of Apple newsgroups. Remember, this experiment was about a cable strain relief, for heaven's sake, which shouldn't /threaten/ the Apple posters in the least - and yet - as always - the Apple posters alone destroyed the thread! *Experiment showing the more Apple posters, the more unhelpful garbage* From: Erholt Rhein Title: What do you use as a USB cable strain relief? Newsgroups: alt.windows7.general,comp.sys.mac.system,misc.phon e.mobile.iphone Proof: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/RDTYTGMX_iM/SQmXbIRuBAAJ *Experiment showing lack of Apple posters always comes to a helpful solution!* From: Erholt Rhein Title: What do you use as a USB cable strain relief? Newsgroups: sci.electronics.repair,comp.mobile.android,alt.hom e.repair Proof: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.home.repair/bzlhAN_xYOM/OP7iFPBeAgAJ The proof is astoundingly reliable over the decades, that no matter what technical question is asked, if Apple posters are involved, the thread will almost never come to a technical solution - while if you eliminate the Apple posters, you almost always come to a great solution. Like all experiments that involve the Apple newsgroups, only the Apple thread went to hell in a hand basket instantly, simply because when gnats buzz a picnic, they will /always/ ruin the thread. Sure, you can attempt to swat away the Apple gnats, or you can try to ignore them, but the moment these Apple parasites find your picnic, the thread is as good as ruined already. Since I only speak valid facts verifiable by any sentient adult, here are the links to that simple non-operating-system related experiment. Apple posters posting incessant drivel to the simplest of questions: Adult posters posting purposefully helpful answers to the same questions: As just another pertinent example that the Apple posters have no intention to ever be helpful, nor can they be helpful, just look at this simple summary from the /same/ thread topic, where the difference between the lack of technical competence on this newsgroup versus the adult newsgroup is stellar. High purposefully unhelpful ratio: *Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?* https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.photo.digital/zdVFRNwhdA8/UXTcwOiUBgAJ High purposefully helpful ratio: *Can Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint & with fonts?* http://www.pcbanter.net/showthread.php?t=1103517 *** *** *Summary of the progress on the _adult_ newsgroups* *** *** *** 0. The best format, by far, for output from PowerPoint 2007 to suck into Adobe Illustrator is PDF, particularly a PDF with the entire embedded font set, simply because the /native/ format of Adobe Illustrator /is/ PDF. 1. A screenshot of the template, where the users are instructed they can change anything but the last line (the ordinance legalities) and the outside border. For example, if they want to draw a picture, they can, but nobody bothered. They all just changed the text, which is why PowerPoint is the right tool for that job. http://i.cubeupload.com/pK8NQE.gif 2. The powerpoint 2007 file with the entire font set embedded. http://www27.zippyshare.com/v/H5GDdHA1/file.html 3. The PDF output from PowerPoint, with the entire font set embedded. http://www27.zippyshare.com/v/abXkQMAN/file.html 4. The entire "Roadgeek Series B Regular" font set, where distribution requires only that the copyright notice be kept intact. http://www.fontspace.com/michael-d-adams/roadgeek-2005 5. Free licensed copy of Adobe Illustrator: https://www.techspot.com/downloads/4948-adobe-creative-suite-free.html 6. Instructions for importing PDF into Adobe Illustrator: How to edit PDF files in Adobe Illustrator http://blog.globalizationpartners.com/using-pdf-in-illustrator-when-source-files-are-lost.aspx Search archived for leverage at: http://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-os-windows-10 *** *** *Summary of the progress on the _adult_ newsgroups* *** *** *** More proof positive of the same purposefully uhhelpful posts when Apple respondents are involved is provided in this factual summary thread: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.sys.mac.system/HS86K5NJBgU/zcn_LvqcBgAJ |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
In article , Andreas
Rutishauser wrote: 5. Free licensed copy of Adobe Illustrator: https://www.techspot.com/downloads/4948-adobe-creative-suite-free.html and you think a Mac user will be happy with a Windows copy of CS2? Go figure... they wouldn't be any happier with a mac version of cs2, since it's powerpc only... |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
Am Sat, 31 Mar 2018 06:21:49 +0100, schrieb Andreas Rutishauser:
and you think a Mac user will be happy with a Windows copy of CS2? Hi Andreas Rutishauser, There is a reason for the PowerPoint, which is that it's a format that everyone has already and knows already and which is easily modified as shown in this screenshot below. http://i.cubeupload.com/pK8NQE.gif There is a reason for the Windows Adobe Illustrator, which is that we want to /test/ whether it's best to hand the Mac Adobe Illustrator just the PDF output from PowerPoint or to hand the Mac the Adobe Illustrator AI files from the freely available Windows version of Adobe Illustrator. There is sufficient detail for you to understand what you seem to have missed in this thread, posted just now, but only to the mac newsgroup. Can the latest Mac Adobe Illustrator read in Windows Adobe Illustrator CS2 "ai-format" files? https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.sys.mac.apps/xiJFl-xbD1o Thanks! |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
In article , Ragnusen Ultred
wrote: from the freely available Windows version of Adobe Illustrator. illustrator is not free nor has it ever been free. you are pirating it. |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
Am Sat, 31 Mar 2018 00:24:36 -0400, schrieb nospam:
they wouldn't be any happier with a mac version of cs2, since it's powerpc only... Both of you completely whooshed on the technical detail. Rather than repeat it, just look at this thread, and try to act like an adult, even though you, nospam, have proven for years that: a. You don't know the answer to any technical question, and, b. Even so, you just guess (where a monkey does as well as you do), and, a c. Even more so, you have zero intention to ever be helpful. Rather than prove those obvious points, I'll let you every post prove it for me, just as you already proved in this thread on the subject: Can the latest Mac Adobe Illustrator read in Windows Adobe Illustrator CS2 "ai-format" files? https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.sys.mac.apps/xiJFl-xbD1o |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
Am Sat, 31 Mar 2018 01:10:49 -0400, schrieb nospam:
illustrator is not free nor has it ever been free. In your constant question to act like a child, nospam, you completely whooshed on all the extensive tests that Paul already ran and explained in detail the Windows thread. Can Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint & with fonts? http://www.pcbanter.net/showthread.php?t=1103517 Notice that there, not surprisingly, no Apple users were on that Windows thread, so it was immensely informative for all the users and not filled to the brim with your childish drivel that you Apple users have unilaterally spouted for decades. Why do Apple posters always act like children. I don't know why. I just know that you do. |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
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Ragnusen Ultred wrote: Am Thu, 29 Mar 2018 08:48:34 -0400, schrieb Mayayana: Please cross-post if necessary, rather than multi-posting. Your question is being answered in the Win10 group. The consensus seems to be: Convert the PPT to PDF. (In MS Office, or failing that, in Libre Office.) Import the PDF into Illustrator. 5. Free licensed copy of Adobe Illustrator: https://www.techspot.com/downloads/4948-adobe-creative-suite-free.html and you think a Mac user will be happy with a Windows copy of CS2? Go figure... -- MacAndreas Rutishauser, http://www.MacAndreas.ch EDV-Dienstleistungen, Hard- und Software, Internet und Netzwerk Beratung, Unterstuetzung und Schulung , Fon: 044 / 721 36 47 |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
On 2018-03-31 05:21:49 +0000, Andreas Rutishauser said:
In article , Ragnusen Ultred wrote: Am Thu, 29 Mar 2018 08:48:34 -0400, schrieb Mayayana: Please cross-post if necessary, rather than multi-posting. Your question is being answered in the Win10 group. The consensus seems to be: Convert the PPT to PDF. (In MS Office, or failing that, in Libre Office.) Import the PDF into Illustrator. 5. Free licensed copy of Adobe Illustrator: https://www.techspot.com/downloads/4948-adobe-creative-suite-free.html and you think a Mac user will be happy with a Windows copy of CS2? You can get the Mac version as well. Technially it's not "free". You're meant to have, and still need, a license code. Adobe turned off the authentication servers for the old apps, meaning anyone still using them would have problems, so Adobe supplied the download links for tweaked versions which will work. Go figure... It's a ridiculous troll question to begin with since NO version of Adobe Illustrator can open a PowerPoint document. :-\ |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
Am Sat, 31 Mar 2018 19:01:08 +1300, schrieb Your Name:
You can get the Mac version as well. This is good to know, so thank you for being an adult, which, as has been proven for decades, is rare on any Apple-related newsgroup. It's a ridiculous troll question to begin with since NO version of Adobe Illustrator can open a PowerPoint document. :-\ Whoever it was that errantly *thought* that was the problem simply completely misunderstood the problem set, which was explained so many times that it doesn't need to be explained again. In fact, nobody on the Windows newsgroup was confused about that part of the problem set, since they're all adults there who can comprehend facts. Can Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint & with fonts? http://www.pcbanter.net/showthread.php?t=1103517 Before anyone jumps to more completely erroneous wacky assumptions, just look at this short post for the key unanswered question: Can the latest Mac Adobe Illustrator read in Windows Adobe Illustrator CS2 "ai-format" files? https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.sys.mac.apps/xiJFl-xbD1o |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
On Sat, 31 Mar 2018 01:10:49 -0400, nospam
wrote: In article , Ragnusen Ultred wrote: from the freely available Windows version of Adobe Illustrator. illustrator is not free nor has it ever been free. "freely available" does not mean that it's "free". It may have been better if Ragnusen Ultred had written "readily available". you are pirating it. Not necessarily. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
"Eric Stevens" wrote
| you are pirating it. | | Not necessarily. Those programs were actually put online by Adobe some time ago. Adobe themselves provided the keys. There were license terms with the downloads that said they were only valid if obtained from Adobe directly. Check. So it's all perfectly legal. Later Adobe altered the terms to say the download was intended only for people who had bought the programs but had lost the media and key. My guess is that they were offering them to get new customers who might then want to mortgage their house to buy the latest version. Then it probably turned out that there were no new suckers to be had. Only people who were interested in Adobe products *if* they were free. So Adobe backtracked and officially claimed that, "Yes, we're giving this stuff away. But not really." |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
"Ragnusen Ultred" wrote
| Hi Mayayana, | | By now, you realize why you can't have any Apple users on any thread where | you actually expect three things: Don't try to bring me into this. You're cross-posting to a Mac group for no good reason, then repeatedly insulting them. And that's after you already multi-posted to numerous groups to answer one simple question. No one owes it to you to be helpful. |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
In article , Eric Stevens
wrote: from the freely available Windows version of Adobe Illustrator. illustrator is not free nor has it ever been free. "freely available" does not mean that it's "free". It may have been better if Ragnusen Ultred had written "readily available". no difference. you are pirating it. Not necessarily. yes necessarily. |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
In article , Mayayana
wrote: | you are pirating it. | | Not necessarily. Those programs were actually put online by Adobe some time ago. Adobe themselves provided the keys. There were license terms with the downloads that said they were only valid if obtained from Adobe directly. Check. So it's all perfectly legal. nope. the license terms stated that cs2 is for those who already have an existing cs2 license. it is *not* nor never was intended to be able to leech a copy. period. Later Adobe altered the terms to say the download was intended only for people who had bought the programs but had lost the media and key. nope. they never altered anything. My guess is just that, and completely wrong. that they were offering them to get new customers who might then want to mortgage their house to buy the latest version. nonsense. it was a (then) 8 year old version that hadn't been sold in years and would not run on existing hardware or operating systems anymore, therefore they could not justify keeping the activation servers online. new customers were buying new versions, at the time, either cs6 or creative cloud. your guess is not even remotely close. Then it probably turned out that there were no new suckers to be had. Only people who were interested in Adobe products *if* they were free. So Adobe backtracked and officially claimed that, "Yes, we're giving this stuff away. But not really." like i said, your 'guess' is wrong. |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
Am Sat, 31 Mar 2018 22:01:46 +1300, schrieb Eric Stevens:
"freely available" does not mean that it's "free". Hi Eric, I don't know you so I need to know if you're coming from the Mac side or the adult side (rec.photo.digital). If you're coming from the Mac side, then it's understanable that you're in keeping with all the Apple children that they latch on to silly semantics instead of the tougher technical topic which is being asked. If you're coming from the adult side, I would simply ask you to answer the technical question, which has no bearing on what the legal position of the tools is (which, I might add, the adults on the Windows side already hashed out to a level of detail that puts the silly Mac users to instant shame). In short, a. If you're coming from the Mac side, then you have no helpful intent, nor do you have any technical capability to answer the question, so, it's understandable that you latch, instead, tenaciously on silly semantic games. b. If you're coming from the adult side, then I already pointed you to the adult side of that non-technical legal tangent, where your immense confusion will be allayed. Now back to the question at hand which has nothing to do with silly semantics that the Apple users /always/ latch onto because they can't or they refuse to answer even the /simplest/ of technical questions. |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
Am Sat, 31 Mar 2018 09:16:49 -0400, schrieb Mayayana:
Those programs were actually put online by Adobe some time ago. Adobe themselves provided the keys. There were license terms with the downloads that said they were only valid if obtained from Adobe directly. Check. So it's all perfectly legal. Later Adobe altered the terms to say the download was intended only for people who had bought the programs but had lost the media and key. My guess is that they were offering them to get new customers who might then want to mortgage their house to buy the latest version. Then it probably turned out that there were no new suckers to be had. Only people who were interested in Adobe products *if* they were free. So Adobe backtracked and officially claimed that, "Yes, we're giving this stuff away. But not really." Thank you Mayayana for explaining the legalities which were already hashed out in the adult newsgroup (Windows 10) and where I do appreciate that you took the time and effort to explain this to Mr. Eric Stevens. However ... If this guy is from the Apple side, just explaining facts to them is like explaining to a child why he can't have his hand in the cookie jar. It's completely lost on these Apple children. Always. It's repeatable as the sun rising every morning. It doesn't matter what the facts are. Just watch. The Apple children, such as nospam has proven himself to be, will always prove three points: a. They have no intention to be helpful, ever, and, b. They don't actually know the answer to the question, and, c. They always just guess (where their success rate is that of the monkey) Hence ... They can only play their incessant silly semantic games. Don't believe me. Let them prove it themselves. |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
In article , Ragnusen Ultred
wrote: Am Sat, 31 Mar 2018 09:16:49 -0400, schrieb Mayayana: Those programs were actually put online by Adobe some time ago. Adobe themselves provided the keys. There were license terms with the downloads that said they were only valid if obtained from Adobe directly. Check. So it's all perfectly legal. Later Adobe altered the terms to say the download was intended only for people who had bought the programs but had lost the media and key. My guess is that they were offering them to get new customers who might then want to mortgage their house to buy the latest version. Then it probably turned out that there were no new suckers to be had. Only people who were interested in Adobe products *if* they were free. So Adobe backtracked and officially claimed that, "Yes, we're giving this stuff away. But not really." Thank you Mayayana for explaining the legalities which were already hashed out in the adult newsgroup (Windows 10) and where I do appreciate that you took the time and effort to explain this to Mr. Eric Stevens. you two make a perfect pair. both of you are completely delusional. |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
Am Sat, 31 Mar 2018 09:22:21 -0400, schrieb Mayayana:
Don't try to bring me into this. You're cross-posting to a Mac group for no good reason, then repeatedly insulting them. And that's after you already multi-posted to numerous groups to answer one simple question. No one owes it to you to be helpful. Fair enough. But watch what happens the /instant/ the Apple users, like nospam is, get involved. Just watch. |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
Am Sat, 31 Mar 2018 11:42:57 -0400, schrieb nospam:
you two make a perfect pair. both of you are completely delusional. Notice you prove, in /every/ post the veracity of my statements. |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
In article , Ragnusen Ultred
wrote: But watch what happens the /instant/ the Apple users, like nospam is, get involved. he exposes the true trolls, you and your new bff, mayayana. |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
On 2018-03-31 09:01:46 +0000, Eric Stevens said:
On Sat, 31 Mar 2018 01:10:49 -0400, nospam wrote: In article , Ragnusen Ultred wrote: from the freely available Windows version of Adobe Illustrator. illustrator is not free nor has it ever been free. "freely available" does not mean that it's "free". It may have been better if Ragnusen Ultred had written "readily available". you are pirating it. Not necessarily. If you're downloading the tweaked versions from Adobe without actually owning a licence, then yes, you are pirating it. The instructions on Aodbe's download page specifically say you have to already own a licence. |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
Am Sat, 31 Mar 2018 11:46:18 -0400, schrieb nospam:
he exposes the true trolls, you and your new bff, mayayana. While you, nospam, always prove in every post that... 1. You lack technical competency 2. Hence, you merely guess (scoring about how the monkeys do) 3. Worse, you purposefully post only with malice and ill intent. Meanwhile, on the adult platform newsgroup, we made tremendous progress, and have solved the problem, with this verbatim snippet simply being just one examples of the solutions proposed. *** *** *** *** Adult purposefully helpful post from Paul *** *** *** *** https://www.techspot.com/downloads/4...uite-free.html Last updated: January 14, 2013 Windows Serial number: 1130-1414-7569-4457-6613-5551 Developer: Adobe, License: Commercial OS: Windows File size: 1.5 GB Installation: http://download.adobe.com/pub/adobe/...nstall_Win.pdf Tutorial: http://download.adobe.com/pub/adobe/.../MLTI/VCS2.zip In the CS2 incident, Adobe pulled the plug on their Activation Server. This would have left legitimate customers with no means to re-install the software when they wanted. This was still "buy to own" software back in those days, and not rental software. You would think that most customers would have registered their purchase, and Adobe could mail some sort of details to each customer, with a means of resolving the issue. Instead, Adobe put up copies of the executable installers, along with some sort of "generic" keys for each tool. People started downloading both the license keys, and the executables, who had not purchased the product originally. (Like this is a surprise.) After a while, Adobe sent out a press release indicating this wasn't some hidden intent. This wasn't "trial" software. And at that point, the software wasn't their current version. It was an older version. The presumption at the time was, the keys were cracked, and the Activation Server really wasn't achieving anything. People who might have been pirating the stuff, were probably getting hacked executables and so on. But there isn't any additional information or background story, as to why Adobe chose this route to solve the "legit customer" problem with having an Activation Server turned off. The whole episode was... pretty weird. Sites continue, to this day, to present links to copies of that software. Adobe might have required a user to set up an Adobe Account (just like when you used to do a Trial with Adobe), to "gate" the download of those. People who present copies today like TechSpot, do it so users don't have to get an Adobe Account just to get the files. There is a trick to installing it. Each EXE has an unpacker. The first CD also includes an installer that starts right away. You can unpack the software, anywhere you want. I put the unpacked materials on C:\CS2 for example. When "1" unpacks, it creates a folder "Adobe Creative CS2" or similar, and underneath that, you might see one tool folder. When you unpack 2,3,4 EXEs, you can copy the two or one or four folders, and put them under C:\CS2\Adobe Creative CS2\ in parallel with the tools on 1. This builds a folder with everything in it, and the installer "stops asking for CD 2". You might want to practice in a VM first, until you get the hang of it. Anyway, the purpose of the post, was to show that *some* representation does open in Adobe Illustrator, if you pass a PDF. The steps to post-process the work, to you or me don't seem onerous, but the person actually doing the workflow will have their own rules and methods of conducting business. Generally, for embedded fonts, the intention is not to "carry" embedded versions through multiple tools in a workflow. Any time a font needs to be processed, the tool expects the full font to be available. This "proves" the font is licensed for one thing, or that the owner actually has a full copy of the font. The font itself may have licensing bits, which indicate whether copies or embeds can be done Full Font | Tool 1 Full Font | | +---- (embed font for ---- import --- Tool 2 print purposes) | +--- embed subset... That could be why the operator feels the need to "load" the font for your "job". In the case of my LibreOffice experiment, it was two fonts, because one font seems to be erroneously referenced in the PDF. People who do that sort of work, use "Font Managers". A Font Manager may have folders with 10,000 fonts in it, and the Font Manager loads only a subset into the system. This covers situations where the system doesn't actually behave well if there are 10,000 fonts in the system folder. I think I did a test like that once, and the OS was borked well before getting to a high number like that. So they might not "load" your font in a conventional sense, but make it an entry in the Font Manager which is loaded as a subset for the job. Paul *** *** *** *** Adult purposefully helpful post from Paul *** *** *** *** The PDF seems to work. Here is a simulation. 1) Sample file made in LibreOffice Impress (the equivalent of PowerPoint). I selected a paper size of 17"x11" and I don't know if I could have selected a paper size that you wanted. In any case, this is the PDF exported from LibreOffice. The fonts are embedded. I didn't want to put the word "squirrel" at the top of the drawing, and LibreOffice tries to embed LiberationSerif font for nothing. I added the title "squirrel" and applied LibrationSerif font, so it would have something to embed. This stopped one warning from Acrobat Reader when I verified the document exported. https://s17.postimg.org/hne85qcbj/ex...uirrel_pdf.gif 2) This is Illustrator CS2 pulling in the PDF. https://s17.postimg.org/4yjxm1qrj/illus_CS2.gif Illustrator complains about both fonts in this case, even though they're embedded. But it proceeds anyway to convert the font to outlines and it shows the control points as being selected. The operator would then have to create a CutContour where the red box I put around the outside is located. That's still going to cost you a "layout" charge, simply because the machine cannot start the printing process, unless a CutContour is defined. Illustrator has at least two kinds of data stored inside it, while PDF has only one. The Illustrator in a way, is a "dual representation". There's no point in me saving out the Illustrator .ai file, as it really wouldn't have any meaning (i.e. I don't have any more steps that I can realistically simulate). If you remember the CS2 incident, this is what I used for the simulation, in a VM. You need four files from this page, a copy of QuickTime 6.0.0 from oldversions, your squirrel4.pdf, to do the very quick Illustrator test. https://www.techspot.com/downloads/4...uite-free.html This test doesn't prove much of anything, except that the PDF does pull into Illustrator. If you needed to "re-purpose" the artwork while it was inside Illustrator, it might be quite a challenge to do anything with it. It doesn't look like the importation is "seamless", at least, it doesn't give that impression so far. But for your purposes, it might not matter. I got the idea to do the test, from here. I didn't need to tick any boxes like "Convert All Text" or "Convert All Strokes" and the tool seemed to do more or less what you wanted automatically. http://blog.globalizationpartners.co...-are-lost.aspx The edge of the font looks pretty weird, and I don't know exactly how to describe how the font has been converted. It doesn't look exactly like Bezier. https://s17.postimg.org/ekijzkbf3/font_edges.gif Paul *** *** *** *** Adult purposefully helpful post from Paul *** *** *** *** |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint withfonts?
On 2018-03-28 23:07, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint & with fonts? I have someone making signs for me on a vinyl style printer where she says she can't read in the Microsoft Powerpoint and fonts, even though I've embedded the entire truetype set (not just what's used in the document) in the PowerPoint file. I don't have a Mac nor Adobe Illustrator to test it out, but can't Illustrator just read in the PowerPoint file with the fonts? She says it can't do either, so she has to re-create the sign from a JPEG which seems pretty ridiculous to me but I don't know the technology at all since I have never done it. It's basically two question: 1. Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a PowerPoint file from Windows? 2. If yes, can't it get the font out of the embedded font in the PPT file? As usual, Microsoft have diddled you: https://support.office.com/en-us/art...c-3af1bab640de Near the bottom of that page is a section: "Text and Fonts". It says: "Also remember that Windows versions of PowerPoint can embed TrueType fonts within a presentation. But these embedded fonts cannot be seen by Mac versions of PowerPoint." Microsoft can't get it right w/i their own product line on 2 platforms. I doubt that Adobe can do much better in pulling the font. -- "2/3 of Donald Trump's wives were immigrants. Proof that we need immigrants to do jobs that most Americans wouldn't do." - unknown protester |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
Am Sun, 1 Apr 2018 14:09:09 -0400, schrieb Alan Browne:
As usual, Microsoft have diddled you: https://support.office.com/en-us/art...c-3af1bab640de Near the bottom of that page is a section: "Text and Fonts". It says: "Also remember that Windows versions of PowerPoint can embed TrueType fonts within a presentation. But these embedded fonts cannot be seen by Mac versions of PowerPoint." Microsoft can't get it right w/i their own product line on 2 platforms. I doubt that Adobe can do much better in pulling the font. Hi Alan Browne, Thank you for being purposefully helpful and for being an adult, by bringing up that very important compatibility issue which is really a Microsoft flaw, and not a Mac bug, although it affects the Mac and not Windows. Basically Microsoft doesn't let Mac Office read the fonts that were embedded by Windows Office. You'll note that I mentioned this long ago, but I don't remember if it was mentioned in this r.p.d thread or in the a.c.o.w-10 thread, where your admonition is very important. The fact is that the Mac MS Office doesn't respect the Windows MS Office embedded fonts, which is why we were hoping the Windows PDF with embedded fonts will have better luck on the Mac with Adobe Illustrator. So the question is really now whether the Mac can read embedded fonts in the PDF file. I don't have a Mac to answer that question, so I'm currently attempting to answer that question using the Windows Adobe Illustrator. Here is the progress we've made, to date, on the Windows newsgroup, which has been extremely helpful, and technically competent, as always, no matter what question is asked (nor how inconvenient the facts may be). Here's a tutorial I just wrote up, for example, for the Windows users to benefit from, where I simply asked them to help me figure out why the second CD keeps being asked for. There must be a trick - which I'm clearly ignorant of - to get the 2nd CD to be found - but I just posted that question moments ago, so we'll wait for the Windows users to figure it out, and then anyone can repeat the tests I'm running, because that's how we work on the Windows and Linux newsgroups. ==== ==== ==== 1. Download the 4 files from: https://www.techspot.com/downloads/4...uite-free.html ----- Name: CreativeSuiteCS2Disc1.exe Size: 375638402 bytes (358 MB) SHA256: 36DACE2549BDE94D7A45281380EEF453FD2AF38EDA19348FA3 DE567549A696EC SHA1: 1538166046E59DB6098F75C3196E84AD9310DEA1 ----- Name: CreativeSuiteCS2Disc2.exe Size: 427451410 bytes (407 MB) SHA256: 5862668CA45C0196777D3D4E2108D0A6F0750F6965769CB573 0944D3520DBB54 Size: 427451410 bytes (407 MB) SHA1: D06911267603474B43F3F39E4B00029787173962 ----- Name: CreativeSuiteCS2Disc3.exe Size: 346373903 bytes (330 MB) SHA256: C662F1C431FAA33160523545FDA3BD58F29ED3616CB8E6D183 5CCE810AD5AB30 SHA1: 54BA48723D657E4A86903ED2C876381488C8F945 ----- Name: CS_2.0_WWE_Extras_1.exe Size: 431237012 bytes (411 MB) SHA256: 921402DA55BFEF5E6E21DE2261F725FFE0A451153F453000FB 3152635E1161BE SHA1: 1C6CC05D49244ED1417B3E2C3136D4FD0B7F57E0 2. Unpack by right clicking & selecting 7Zip unpack to (choose the default): ----- CreativeSuiteCS2Disc1.exe unpacks with 7Zip to .\CreativeSuiteCS2Disc1\Adobe Creative Suite 2.0\. .\CreativeSuiteCS2Disc1\Design Guide.pdf .\CreativeSuiteCS2Disc1\How To Install.html .\CreativeSuiteCS2Disc1\How to Uninstall.pdf .\CreativeSuiteCS2Disc1\Read Me First.html ----- CreativeSuiteCS2Disc2.exe unpacks with 7Zip to .\CreativeSuiteCS2Disc2\Adobe InDesign CS2\. .\CreativeSuiteCS2Disc2\Adobe Version Cue CS2\. ----- CreativeSuiteCS2Disc3.exe unpacks with 7Zip to .\CreativeSuiteCS2Disc3\Adobe Creative Suite 2.0\. ----- CS_2.0_WWE_Extras_1.exe unpacks with 7Zip to .\CS_2.0_WWE_Extras_1\Adobe Solutions Network\. .\CS_2.0_WWE_Extras_1\Documentation\. .\CS_2.0_WWE_Extras_1\Goodies\. .\CS_2.0_WWE_Extras_1\Technical Information\. 3. Combine all files and directories into a single directory: .\CreativeSuite\CS2\Adobe Creative Suite 2.0\. .\CreativeSuite\CS2\Adobe InDesign CS2\. .\CreativeSuite\CS2\Adobe Solutions Network\. .\CreativeSuite\CS2\Adobe Version Cue CS2\. .\CreativeSuite\CS2\Design Guide.pdf .\CreativeSuite\CS2\Documentation\. .\CreativeSuite\CS2\Goodies\. .\CreativeSuite\CS2\How To Install.html .\CreativeSuite\CS2\How to Uninstall.pdf .\CreativeSuite\CS2\Read Me First.html .\CreativeSuite\CS2\Technical Information\. 4. Run the installer (I ran on Windows 10 1709 Creator's Edition): .\CreativeSuite\CS2\Adobe Creative Suite 2.0\Setup.exe 5. You'll get a warning that "QuickTime 6 is required to use the multimedia features in the Adobe Creative Suite 2", which you can ignore. 6. Then it will require a Name (default = "Windows User") & serial number. Name: Windows user Company: blank Serial Number 1130 1414 7569 4457 6613 5551 7. It will default to C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe It says it will use up 2.62GB I put mine in C:\app\editor\pic\cs2 8. There will be a choice of what components to install: [x] Adobe Illustrator CS2 (600MB) [x] Adobe InDesign CS2 (400MB) [x] Adobe Photoshop CS2 and Adobe ImageReady CS2 (450MB) [x] Adobe Version Cue CS2 (300MB) 9. It will start installing and then ask: "Please insert CD 2 to continue installation" where if you hit the "OK" button, it will ask forever for that CD 2. Note: It seems to have installed Photoshop though, but nothing else. 10. So I hit cancel, and then ran the Setup.exe again. Up pops an option to "Change/Remove the Adobe Creative Suite 2" with the two options: (_) Install, Re-install, or Uninstall Individual Adobe CS2 Components (o) Uninstall all Adobe Creative Suite 2 Components So I switch that default to: (0) Install, Re-install, or Uninstall Individual Adobe CS2 Components (_) Uninstall all Adobe Creative Suite 2 Components 11. This time a form came up to "Change Individual Components", saying: Please select the components of the Adobe Creative Suite 2 to modify. Adobe Illustrator CS2 (600MB) [No Change - Not Installed] or [Install] Adobe InDesign CS2 (400MB) [No Change - Not Installed] or [Install] Adobe Photoshop CS2 & Adobe ImageReady CS2 (450MB) [No Change - Installed] or [Uninstall] or [Re-Install] Adobe Version Cue CS2 (300MB) [No Change - Not Installed] or [Install] Where the first item in the list is the default. 12. I changed the Adobe Illustrator CS2 to "Install" & hit Next and waited for it to display a "Finish" button, which I hit and the installation GUI went away. 13. So I ran the Setup.exe again. Up pops an option to "Change/Remove the Adobe Creative Suite 2" with the two options: (_) Install, Re-install, or Uninstall Individual Adobe CS2 Components (o) Uninstall all Adobe Creative Suite 2 Components So I switch that default to: (0) Install, Re-install, or Uninstall Individual Adobe CS2 Components (_) Uninstall all Adobe Creative Suite 2 Components 14. Now the "Change Individual Components" form says: Please select the components of the Adobe Creative Suite 2 to modify. Adobe Illustrator CS2 (600MB) [No Change - Installed] or [Uninstall] or [Re-Install] Adobe InDesign CS2 (400MB) [No Change - Not Installed] or [Install] Adobe Photoshop CS2 & Adobe ImageReady CS2 (450MB) [No Change - Installed] or [Uninstall] or [Re-Install] Adobe Version Cue CS2 (300MB) [No Change - Not Installed] or [Install] Where the first item in the list is the default. 15. This time I selected both the remaining tools to install and hit Next. Drat. It asked for CD 2 and wouldn't take anything else for an answer. So I had to quit. 16. So I ran the Setup.exe again and only selected one product to install. Adobe InDesign CS2 (400MB) But it asked for CD 2 so I killed that. 17. So I ran the Setup.exe again and only selected one product to install. Adobe Version Cue CS2 (300MB) But it asked for CD 2 so I killed that. 18. Giving up on the entire suite, I then looked to see what was installed. C:\editor\app\pic\cs2\. Adobe Bridge\. Adobe Creative Suite 2\. Adobe Help Center\. Adobe Illustrator CS2\. Adobe Photoshop CS2\. Adobe Stock Photos \. 19. I guess the executables of interest a C:\editor\app\pic\cs2\Adobe Illustrator CS2\Adobe Illustrator CS2.lnk Right clicking on the shortcut to select properties shows: Target: "C:\app\editor\pic\cs2\Adobe Illustrator CS2\Support Files\Contents\Windows\Illustrator.exe Open In: "c:\app\editor\pic\cs2\Adobe Illustrator CS2\Support Files\Contents\Windows\" C:\editor\app\pic\cs2\Adobe Photoshop CS2\Photoshop.exe C:\editor\app\pic\cs2\Adobe Bridge\Bridge.exe 20. Creating a shortcut to the Photoshop executable and running it pops up Photoshop version 9.0 and a voluntary registration form and then automatically checks for updates. Photoshop, which I've never used, appears to be working. 21. Running the Adobe Illustrator shortcut seems to run Adobe Illustrator version 12.0.0 and it doesn't ask for registration (probably because the first executable you run is what asks). Illustrator, which I've never used, appears to be working. |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
On Sat, 31 Mar 2018 10:14:38 -0400, nospam
wrote: In article , Eric Stevens wrote: from the freely available Windows version of Adobe Illustrator. illustrator is not free nor has it ever been free. "freely available" does not mean that it's "free". It may have been better if Ragnusen Ultred had written "readily available". no difference. Bananas are readily available but they are not generally free. That is why it can be misleading to say they are freely available. you are pirating it. Not necessarily. yes necessarily. Even if he already has a license? -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
In article , Ragnusen Ultred
wrote: Here's a tutorial I just wrote up, for example, for the Windows users to benefit from, where I simply asked them to help me figure out why the second CD keeps being asked for. you can't even manage to pirate software without having problems. |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
In article , Eric Stevens
wrote: from the freely available Windows version of Adobe Illustrator. illustrator is not free nor has it ever been free. "freely available" does not mean that it's "free". It may have been better if Ragnusen Ultred had written "readily available". no difference. Bananas are readily available but they are not generally free. That is why it can be misleading to say they are freely available. bananas are not software you are pirating it. Not necessarily. yes necessarily. Even if he already has a license? he doesn't and you know it. |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
On Sat, 31 Mar 2018 08:36:34 -0700, Ragnusen Ultred
wrote: Am Sat, 31 Mar 2018 22:01:46 +1300, schrieb Eric Stevens: "freely available" does not mean that it's "free". Hi Eric, I don't know you so I need to know if you're coming from the Mac side or the adult side (rec.photo.digital). If you're coming from the Mac side, then it's understanable that you're in keeping with all the Apple children that they latch on to silly semantics instead of the tougher technical topic which is being asked. If you're coming from the adult side, I would simply ask you to answer the technical question, which has no bearing on what the legal position of the tools is (which, I might add, the adults on the Windows side already hashed out to a level of detail that puts the silly Mac users to instant shame). In short, a. If you're coming from the Mac side, then you have no helpful intent, nor do you have any technical capability to answer the question, so, it's understandable that you latch, instead, tenaciously on silly semantic games. b. If you're coming from the adult side, then I already pointed you to the adult side of that non-technical legal tangent, where your immense confusion will be allayed. Now back to the question at hand which has nothing to do with silly semantics that the Apple users /always/ latch onto because they can't or they refuse to answer even the /simplest/ of technical questions. I will let you work out which side you think I belong to. In writing ' "freely available" does not mean that it's "free" ' I was writing about the source of the possible confusion of others, not illustrating my own. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
On Sun, 1 Apr 2018 10:13:45 +1200, Your Name
wrote: On 2018-03-31 09:01:46 +0000, Eric Stevens said: On Sat, 31 Mar 2018 01:10:49 -0400, nospam wrote: In article , Ragnusen Ultred wrote: from the freely available Windows version of Adobe Illustrator. illustrator is not free nor has it ever been free. "freely available" does not mean that it's "free". It may have been better if Ragnusen Ultred had written "readily available". you are pirating it. Not necessarily. If you're downloading the tweaked versions from Adobe without actually owning a licence, then yes, you are pirating it. The instructions on Aodbe's download page specifically say you have to already own a licence. That was more or less my point. While piracy was probable it is not necessarily piracy in every case. In saying "you are pirating it" nospam had jumped to a conclusion which was not necessarily correct. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
In article , Eric Stevens
wrote: from the freely available Windows version of Adobe Illustrator. illustrator is not free nor has it ever been free. "freely available" does not mean that it's "free". It may have been better if Ragnusen Ultred had written "readily available". you are pirating it. Not necessarily. If you're downloading the tweaked versions from Adobe without actually owning a licence, then yes, you are pirating it. The instructions on Aodbe's download page specifically say you have to already own a licence. That was more or less my point. While piracy was probable it is not necessarily piracy in every case. In saying "you are pirating it" nospam had jumped to a conclusion which was not necessarily correct. nope. i explained that. the reality is that 'ultred' doesn't have a license and is pirating it. |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
On Apr 1, 2018, Eric Stevens wrote
(in ): On Sat, 31 Mar 2018 08:36:34 -0700, Ragnusen Ultred wrote: Am Sat, 31 Mar 2018 22:01:46 +1300, schrieb Eric Stevens: "freely available" does not mean that it's "free". Hi Eric, I don't know you so I need to know if you're coming from the Mac side or the adult side (rec.photo.digital). If you're coming from the Mac side, then it's understanable that you're in keeping with all the Apple children that they latch on to silly semantics instead of the tougher technical topic which is being asked. If you're coming from the adult side, I would simply ask you to answer the technical question, which has no bearing on what the legal position of the tools is (which, I might add, the adults on the Windows side already hashed out to a level of detail that puts the silly Mac users to instant shame). In short, a. If you're coming from the Mac side, then you have no helpful intent, nor do you have any technical capability to answer the question, so, it's understandable that you latch, instead, tenaciously on silly semantic games. b. If you're coming from the adult side, then I already pointed you to the adult side of that non-technical legal tangent, where your immense confusion will be allayed. Now back to the question at hand which has nothing to do with silly semantics that the Apple users /always/ latch onto because they can't or they refuse to answer even the /simplest/ of technical questions. I will let you work out which side you think I belong to. Consider that you responded to his r.p.d. OP. The poster of many nyms then added a cross post to comp.sys.mac.apps which has added to his confusion. In writing ' "freely available" does not mean that it's "free" ' I was writing about the source of the possible confusion of others, not illustrating my own. At some point historically Adobe had the expectation that folks accessing Ai CS2, or any of the CS2 suite, had bought a license, and might have lost the media. They were not announcing a free for all pirating operation. The other issue is Ai CS2 is not supported by any Intel Apple computer. So it will only run on a legacy PPC Mac, the last of which were sold in 2006 back in the days of the G5 and OSX 10.4 Tiger, and most of those have been retired. -- Regards, Savageduck |
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
In article .com,
Savageduck wrote: The other issue is Ai CS2 is not supported by any Intel Apple computer. So it will only run on a legacy PPC Mac, the last of which were sold in 2006 back in the days of the G5 and OSX 10.4 Tiger, and most of those have been retired. it also won't run on recent versions of windows either. adobe took the activation servers offline because there were no new customers. |
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