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David B.[_5_] January 13th 19 05:15 PM

Tips for Mastering In-Camera,Double Exposure Portraits
 
FYI (copy/paste)

"In-camera double exposures are wonderfully creative and work very well
for portraits. I love creating these in the summertime to take advantage
of flowers in bloom. However, Autumn is a great time of year for double
exposures as well. Fall leaves, pine trees, and holiday decor work
really well with this style and the opportunities to experiment are endless.

In order to create double exposures in-camera, you need to have a camera
with this feature built-in. I’m using a Canon EOS 5D Mark IV but there
are a number of cameras with the feature available. You can also create
a double exposure look using an editing program like Photoshop but I
find that creating these in camera is a lot more fun and can yield
unexpected results."

https://s3.amazonaws.com/viewbug_com...leExposure.pdf

--
David B.

Alfred Molon[_4_] January 14th 19 06:53 PM

Tips for Mastering In-Camera,Double Exposure Portraits
 
In article , "David
says...

FYI (copy/paste)

"In-camera double exposures are wonderfully creative and work very well
for portraits. I love creating these in the summertime to take advantage
of flowers in bloom. However, Autumn is a great time of year for double
exposures as well. Fall leaves, pine trees, and holiday decor work
really well with this style and the opportunities to experiment are endless.

In order to create double exposures in-camera, you need to have a camera
with this feature built-in. I?m using a Canon EOS 5D Mark IV but there
are a number of cameras with the feature available. You can also create
a double exposure look using an editing program like Photoshop but I
find that creating these in camera is a lot more fun and can yield
unexpected results."

https://s3.amazonaws.com/viewbug_com...leExposure.pdf


.... what's the big deal? You can mix an endless number
of images in post.
--
Alfred Molon

Olympus E-series DSLRs and micro 4/3 forum at
https://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MyOlympus/
https://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site

Carlos E.R. January 14th 19 08:07 PM

Tips for Mastering In-Camera,Double Exposure Portraits
 
On 13/01/2019 17.15, David B. wrote:
FYIÂ*Â* (copy/paste)

"In-camera double exposures are wonderfully creative and work very well
for portraits. I love creating these in the summertime to take advantage
of flowers in bloom. However, Autumn is a great time of year for double
exposures as well. Fall leaves, pine trees, and holiday decor work
really well with this style and the opportunities to experiment are
endless.

In order to create double exposures in-camera, you need to have a camera
with this feature built-in. I’m using a Canon EOS 5D Mark IV but there
are a number of cameras with the feature available. You can also create
a double exposure look using an editing program like Photoshop but I
find that creating these in camera is a lot more fun and can yield
unexpected results."

https://s3.amazonaws.com/viewbug_com...leExposure.pdf


Double exposure in film, I can understand.

But a digital camera would just add the pixel values from two files,
thus being no different from postprocessing on the computer.

To be valid, the sensor would have to be exposed, and then, without
reading it, exposing it again. Are they really doing it?

--
Cheers, Carlos.

nospam January 14th 19 08:50 PM

Tips for Mastering In-Camera,Double Exposure Portraits
 
In article , Carlos E.R.
wrote:


Double exposure in film, I can understand.


yep. there are far fewer options with film.

But a digital camera would just add the pixel values from two files,
thus being no different from postprocessing on the computer.


it's different in that it doesn't require a computer.

To be valid, the sensor would have to be exposed, and then, without
reading it, exposing it again. Are they really doing it?


that's not required, nor would it work particularly well.

Savageduck[_3_] January 14th 19 08:53 PM

Tips for Mastering In-Camera,Double Exposure Portraits
 
On Jan 14, 2019, Carlos E.R. wrote
(in article ):

On 13/01/2019 17.15, David B. wrote:
FYI (copy/paste)

"In-camera double exposures are wonderfully creative and work very well
for portraits. I love creating these in the summertime to take advantage
of flowers in bloom. However, Autumn is a great time of year for double
exposures as well. Fall leaves, pine trees, and holiday decor work
really well with this style and the opportunities to experiment are
endless.

In order to create double exposures in-camera, you need to have a camera
with this feature built-in. I’m using a Canon EOS 5D Mark IV but there
are a number of cameras with the feature available. You can also create
a double exposure look using an editing program like Photoshop but I
find that creating these in camera is a lot more fun and can yield
unexpected results."

https://s3.amazonaws.com/viewbug_com...leExposure.pdf


Double exposure in film, I can understand.

But a digital camera would just add the pixel values from two files,
thus being no different from postprocessing on the computer.

To be valid, the sensor would have to be exposed, and then, without
reading it, exposing it again. Are they really doing it?


Nikon, Canon, and Fujifilm (and probably others) have a multi-exposure
feature/mode which allows for two separate exposures, on two frames, which
are blended into a single file. It is a bit of a novelty and nothing that
cannot be done in post.

--
Regards,
Savageduck


Carlos E.R. January 14th 19 10:26 PM

Tips for Mastering In-Camera,Double Exposure Portraits
 
On 14/01/2019 20.53, Savageduck wrote:
On Jan 14, 2019, Carlos E.R. wrote
(in article ):

On 13/01/2019 17.15, David B. wrote:
FYI (copy/paste)

"In-camera double exposures are wonderfully creative and work very well
for portraits. I love creating these in the summertime to take advantage
of flowers in bloom. However, Autumn is a great time of year for double
exposures as well. Fall leaves, pine trees, and holiday decor work
really well with this style and the opportunities to experiment are
endless.

In order to create double exposures in-camera, you need to have a camera
with this feature built-in. I’m using a Canon EOS 5D Mark IV but there
are a number of cameras with the feature available. You can also create
a double exposure look using an editing program like Photoshop but I
find that creating these in camera is a lot more fun and can yield
unexpected results."

https://s3.amazonaws.com/viewbug_com...leExposure.pdf


Double exposure in film, I can understand.

But a digital camera would just add the pixel values from two files,
thus being no different from postprocessing on the computer.

To be valid, the sensor would have to be exposed, and then, without
reading it, exposing it again. Are they really doing it?


Nikon, Canon, and Fujifilm (and probably others) have a multi-exposure
feature/mode which allows for two separate exposures, on two frames, which
are blended into a single file. It is a bit of a novelty and nothing that
cannot be done in post.


Ok, so they do two frames, then merge or blend them into a single file.
That's postprocessing, not really "double exposure" in my book. It
simply emulates it, but it is not it.

Understood :-)

--
Cheers, Carlos.

nospam January 14th 19 11:10 PM

Tips for Mastering In-Camera,Double Exposure Portraits
 
In article , Carlos E.R.
wrote:


Double exposure in film, I can understand.

But a digital camera would just add the pixel values from two files,
thus being no different from postprocessing on the computer.

To be valid, the sensor would have to be exposed, and then, without
reading it, exposing it again. Are they really doing it?


Nikon, Canon, and Fujifilm (and probably others) have a multi-exposure
feature/mode which allows for two separate exposures, on two frames, which
are blended into a single file. It is a bit of a novelty and nothing that
cannot be done in post.


Ok, so they do two frames, then merge or blend them into a single file.
That's postprocessing, not really "double exposure" in my book. It
simply emulates it, but it is not it.


are you channeling eric?

it's double exposure, without any emulation whatsoever.

also, a double exposure of the same scene will have less noise, and
it's a lot easier to do it in camera than later. that's also part of
how google night sight works.

Carlos E.R. January 14th 19 11:28 PM

Tips for Mastering In-Camera,Double Exposure Portraits
 
On 14/01/2019 23.10, nospam wrote:
In article , Carlos E.R.
wrote:


Double exposure in film, I can understand.

But a digital camera would just add the pixel values from two files,
thus being no different from postprocessing on the computer.

To be valid, the sensor would have to be exposed, and then, without
reading it, exposing it again. Are they really doing it?

Nikon, Canon, and Fujifilm (and probably others) have a multi-exposure
feature/mode which allows for two separate exposures, on two frames, which
are blended into a single file. It is a bit of a novelty and nothing that
cannot be done in post.


Ok, so they do two frames, then merge or blend them into a single file.
That's postprocessing, not really "double exposure" in my book. It
simply emulates it, but it is not it.


are you channeling eric?

it's double exposure, without any emulation whatsoever.


Not to me, it isn't. End of discussion.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

nospam January 14th 19 11:57 PM

Tips for Mastering In-Camera,Double Exposure Portraits
 
In article , Carlos E.R.
wrote:

Double exposure in film, I can understand.

But a digital camera would just add the pixel values from two files,
thus being no different from postprocessing on the computer.

To be valid, the sensor would have to be exposed, and then, without
reading it, exposing it again. Are they really doing it?

Nikon, Canon, and Fujifilm (and probably others) have a multi-exposure
feature/mode which allows for two separate exposures, on two frames,
which
are blended into a single file. It is a bit of a novelty and nothing that
cannot be done in post.

Ok, so they do two frames, then merge or blend them into a single file.
That's postprocessing, not really "double exposure" in my book. It
simply emulates it, but it is not it.


are you channeling eric?

it's double exposure, without any emulation whatsoever.


Not to me, it isn't. End of discussion.


then film is also emulating...

Savageduck[_3_] January 15th 19 12:14 PM

Tips for Mastering In-Camera,Double Exposure Portraits
 
On Jan 15, 2019, Whisky-dave wrote
(in ):

On Monday, 14 January 2019 22:10:08 UTC, nospam wrote:
In , Carlos E.R.
wrote:


Double exposure in film, I can understand.

But a digital camera would just add the pixel values from two files,
thus being no different from postprocessing on the computer.

To be valid, the sensor would have to be exposed, and then, without
reading it, exposing it again. Are they really doing it?

Nikon, Canon, and Fujifilm (and probably others) have a multi-exposure
feature/mode which allows for two separate exposures, on two frames, which
are blended into a single file. It is a bit of a novelty and nothing that
cannot be done in post.

Ok, so they do two frames, then merge or blend them into a single file.
That's postprocessing, not really "double exposure" in my book. It
simply emulates it, but it is not it.


are you channeling eric?

it's double exposure, without any emulation whatsoever.


It's not a double exposure it's two seperate exposures on two seperate frames.
Which is what happenes whenever you take two photos. Then they are merged
together something that doesn't happen when taking single exposures.

Is HDR a multi-exposure technigue I'd say yes but it isn't the same as what
was done in film multi-exposures.


While HDR shot in a digital camera is a digital multi-exposure technique, I
would consider it an exposure bracketing rather than an analog double
exposure.

Then you have Focus Stacking/Bracketing which is another digital
multi-exposure technique which would be a royal pain to execute with film.

So I'd say it was emulation of double exposure, or it could be a simulation
if exactly the same method was used as would be used in film.


also, a double exposure of the same scene will have less noise,


The vast majority of double exposures wouldn't be of exactly the same scene
otherwise they'd be little point in doing it, unless for HDR of course which
is when you do take multiple shots of the same scene.


Once you have the CPU of the digital camera available a whole World of
possibilities opens up none of which other, than the classic double-exposure,
are easily available to film. For example with my Fujifilm cameras with a
single press of the shutter release, with WB/bracketing, ISO/bracketing or
Film Simulation/bracketing I can obtain three individual exposures of the
exact same scene with either different WB, ISO, or Film Sim all generated via
the in-camera CPU. You just cannot do that with film.

All of those digital multi-exposure techniques can actually be quite useful,
whereas, I consider the digital ‘double-exposure’ a novelty as it can be
done far better, and more deliberately in post processing, even on different
days, months, or even years. Not so with film, unless by some freak accident.

--
Regards,
Savageduck



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