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sobriquet October 14th 14 08:32 PM

graffiti galore
 

http://imgur.com/a/h8AGz

Also nice for cutting and pasting on the ipad:

http://i.imgur.com/O1lA0vK.jpg

Sandman October 15th 14 11:25 AM

graffiti galore
 
In article , sobriquet wrote:

http://imgur.com/a/h8AGz


Also nice for cutting and pasting on the ipad:


http://i.imgur.com/O1lA0vK.jpg


Some were ok, but most were crap...


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Sandman[.net]

sobriquet October 15th 14 12:21 PM

graffiti galore
 
On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 12:25:24 PM UTC+2, Sandman wrote:
In article , sobriquet wrote:



http://imgur.com/a/h8AGz




Also nice for cutting and pasting on the ipad:




http://i.imgur.com/O1lA0vK.jpg




Some were ok, but most were crap...





--

Sandman[.net]



Could you be more specific? Which ones are crap and why?

Sandman October 15th 14 02:36 PM

graffiti galore
 
In article , sobriquet wrote:

sobriquet:
http://imgur.com/a/h8AGz


Also nice for cutting and pasting on the ipad:


http://i.imgur.com/O1lA0vK.jpg


Sandman:
Some were ok, but most were crap...


Could you be more specific? Which ones are crap and why?


This ones were ok:
http://i.imgur.com/YTNrUzw.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/1VY5WKA.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ihc9Zbq.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/mtbKSS8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/9xFJYs0.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ywE1e2N.jpg

This is the only really good one:
http://i.imgur.com/mFAVQwl.jpg

The rest were various degrees of crap :)

Meaning they are dime-a-dozen graffiti, looks the same, nothing special.
And if you're in to graffiti and can't make something special, don't be
into graffiti. :)

--
Sandman[.net]

sobriquet October 15th 14 04:30 PM

graffiti galore
 
On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 3:36:39 PM UTC+2, Sandman wrote:
In article , sobriquet wrote:



sobriquet:


http://imgur.com/a/h8AGz




Also nice for cutting and pasting on the ipad:




http://i.imgur.com/O1lA0vK.jpg




Sandman:


Some were ok, but most were crap...




Could you be more specific? Which ones are crap and why?




This ones were ok:

http://i.imgur.com/YTNrUzw.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/1VY5WKA.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ihc9Zbq.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/mtbKSS8.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/9xFJYs0.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ywE1e2N.jpg



This is the only really good one:

http://i.imgur.com/mFAVQwl.jpg



The rest were various degrees of crap :)



Meaning they are dime-a-dozen graffiti, looks the same, nothing special.

And if you're in to graffiti and can't make something special, don't be

into graffiti. :)



I think if you try to make a graffiti, you will find it's not so easy and it takes a fair bit of practice to come up with anything worthwhile.


This one for instance looks kind of simple:

http://i.imgur.com/kYURNmd.jpg

But if you consider it more closely, it actually is a pretty neat work.


Compare it to some examples of actual sloppy crap (in my opinion):
http://i.imgur.com/JG9CUmu.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/RShQnBi.jpg




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Sandman[.net]


PeterN[_5_] October 16th 14 03:47 AM

graffiti galore
 
On 10/15/2014 7:21 AM, sobriquet wrote:
On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 12:25:24 PM UTC+2, Sandman wrote:
In article , sobriquet wrote:



http://imgur.com/a/h8AGz




Also nice for cutting and pasting on the ipad:




http://i.imgur.com/O1lA0vK.jpg




Some were ok, but most were crap...





--

Sandman[.net]



Could you be more specific? Which ones are crap and why?


Here is some really good grafitti.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97242118/five%20pointz%20partial.jpg

The above is one of the last pictures that was taken. To avoid
litigation over historic designation, the eveving of the day I took that
pivture, the owner whitewashed entire building.

--
PeterN

Sandman October 16th 14 11:19 AM

graffiti galore
 
In article , sobriquet wrote:

sobriquet:
http://imgur.com/a/h8AGz

Also nice for cutting and pasting on the ipad:

http://i.imgur.com/O1lA0vK.jpg

Sandman:
Some were ok, but most were crap...

sobriquet:
Could you be more specific? Which ones are crap and why?


Sandman:
This ones were ok: http://i.imgur.com/YTNrUzw.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/1VY5WKA.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ihc9Zbq.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/mtbKSS8.jpg http://i.imgur.com/9xFJYs0.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ywE1e2N.jpg


This is the only really good one: http://i.imgur.com/mFAVQwl.jpg


The rest were various degrees of crap :)


Meaning they are dime-a-dozen graffiti, looks the same, nothing
special. And if you're in to graffiti and can't make something
special, don't be into graffiti. :)


I think if you try to make a graffiti, you will find it's not so
easy and it takes a fair bit of practice to come up with anything
worthwhile.


Uh, yeah, that's sort of my point :)

This one for instance looks kind of simple:
http://i.imgur.com/kYURNmd.jpg


Yeah, that one is pure crap.

But if you consider it more closely, it actually is a pretty neat
work.


No.

Compare it to some examples of actual sloppy crap (in my opinion):
http://i.imgur.com/JG9CUmu.jpg http://i.imgur.com/RShQnBi.jpg


Well, that's not graffiti as art, that's just color thrown on a wall. My
comments were purely in the scope of graffiti as an artform, and these two
do not fall into that category at all, and ths register far lower than
merely "crap" :)

--
Sandman[.net]

Sandman October 16th 14 11:27 AM

graffiti galore
 
In article , PeterN wrote:

sobriquet:
http://imgur.com/a/h8AGz

Also nice for cutting and pasting on the ipad:

http://i.imgur.com/O1lA0vK.jpg

Sandman:
Some were ok, but most were crap...


--


Sandman[.net]


sobriquet:
Could you be more specific? Which ones are crap and why?


Here is some really good grafitti.


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97242118/five%20pointz%20partial.jpg


Not really. Everything between the windows was mediocre at best. The photo
is low res so it's haerd to see any detail, but the red and circle ones on
the lower wall has some potential, but doesn't look very good from afar.

The above is one of the last pictures that was taken. To avoid
litigation over historic designation, the eveving of the day I took
that pivture, the owner whitewashed entire building.


You should google "Puppet", a Swedish (from my hometown) graffiti artist
whose name is Daniel.

Here is one of his really early work (1989), from the Västerås industrial
port:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/df/Puppet©1989.jpg

Obviously, later work is a lot nicer.


--
Sandman[.net]

PeterN[_5_] October 16th 14 03:14 PM

graffiti galore
 
On 10/16/2014 6:27 AM, Sandman wrote:
In article , PeterN wrote:

sobriquet:
http://imgur.com/a/h8AGz

Also nice for cutting and pasting on the ipad:

http://i.imgur.com/O1lA0vK.jpg

Sandman:
Some were ok, but most were crap...

--

Sandman[.net]

sobriquet:
Could you be more specific? Which ones are crap and why?


Here is some really good grafitti.


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97242118/five%20pointz%20partial.jpg


Not really. Everything between the windows was mediocre at best. The photo
is low res so it's haerd to see any detail, but the red and circle ones on
the lower wall has some potential, but doesn't look very good from afar.


Prior to change of ownership, grafitti areas on that building was
reserved for recognized grafitti artists. You and I may not like some of
the images. Indeed I do not like a lot of the images either, but they
are recognized as art.



The above is one of the last pictures that was taken. To avoid
litigation over historic designation, the eveving of the day I took
that pivture, the owner whitewashed entire building.


You should google "Puppet", a Swedish (from my hometown) graffiti artist
whose name is Daniel.

Here is one of his really early work (1989), from the Västerås industrial
port:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/df/Puppet©1989.jpg

Obviously, later work is a lot nicer.


I would not like that image hanging on my wall, but I recognize it as
art. Fortunately, there is no one artbiter of which art is better than
others.

--
PeterN

sobriquet October 16th 14 03:38 PM

graffiti galore
 
On Thursday, October 16, 2014 12:19:44 PM UTC+2, Sandman wrote:
In article , sobriquet wrote:



sobriquet:


http://imgur.com/a/h8AGz




Also nice for cutting and pasting on the ipad:




http://i.imgur.com/O1lA0vK.jpg




Sandman:


Some were ok, but most were crap...




sobriquet:


Could you be more specific? Which ones are crap and why?




Sandman:


This ones were ok: http://i.imgur.com/YTNrUzw.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/1VY5WKA.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ihc9Zbq.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/mtbKSS8.jpg http://i.imgur.com/9xFJYs0.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/ywE1e2N.jpg




This is the only really good one: http://i.imgur.com/mFAVQwl.jpg




The rest were various degrees of crap :)




Meaning they are dime-a-dozen graffiti, looks the same, nothing


special. And if you're in to graffiti and can't make something


special, don't be into graffiti. :)




I think if you try to make a graffiti, you will find it's not so


easy and it takes a fair bit of practice to come up with anything


worthwhile.




Uh, yeah, that's sort of my point :)



This one for instance looks kind of simple:


http://i.imgur.com/kYURNmd.jpg




Yeah, that one is pure crap.



But if you consider it more closely, it actually is a pretty neat


work.




No.



Compare it to some examples of actual sloppy crap (in my opinion):


http://i.imgur.com/JG9CUmu.jpg http://i.imgur.com/RShQnBi.jpg




Well, that's not graffiti as art, that's just color thrown on a wall. My

comments were purely in the scope of graffiti as an artform, and these two

do not fall into that category at all, and ths register far lower than

merely "crap" :)



--

Sandman[.net]


You sound a bit like those clueless people who visit museums and
proclaim that their 3-year old can come up with something similar
every time they see an abstract work of art.

If it doesn't fit their idea of art, it must be crap and they
can't work out that perhaps it's their concept of what constitutes
a work of art that's crap and not the creations they dismiss so
easily.


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