Sony to put more pressure on its APS line with APS-sized FF
 

On 2020-08-31 11:02, RichA wrote:
You MUST have FF! Otherwise, you pictures will stink!!

https://petapixel.com/2020/08/31/son...-month-report/


Shocking! Sony responding to market needs. The dirty fiends.

Sony to put more pressure on its APS line with APS-sized FF
 

On 2020-09-01 18:42, RichA wrote:
On Tuesday, 1 September 2020 08:39:19 UTC-4, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2020-08-31 11:02, RichA wrote:
You MUST have FF! Otherwise, you pictures will stink!!

https://petapixel.com/2020/08/31/son...-month-report/


Shocking! Sony responding to market needs. The dirty fiends.

Responding or creating?

Clearly responding to the vlogger market. It would be fair to say they
(accidentally?) created a camera class for that market a couple/few
years ago - but the latest cameras are responding to that market by
making up in areas where those cameras were very good but not great for
that. Now it looks like they're honing in.

Sony to put more pressure on its APS line with APS-sized FF
 

In article ,
says...
Clearly responding to the vlogger market.

And you need a full frame camera for vlogs - APS-C is not good
enough?
--
Alfred Molon

Olympus 4/3 and micro 4/3 cameras forum at
https://groups.io/g/myolympus
https://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site

Sony to put more pressure on its APS line with APS-sized FF
 

On 2020-09-05 00:14, RichA wrote:
On Friday, 4 September 2020 12:11:48 UTC-4, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2020-09-01 18:42, RichA wrote:
On Tuesday, 1 September 2020 08:39:19 UTC-4, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2020-08-31 11:02, RichA wrote:
You MUST have FF! Otherwise, you pictures will stink!!

https://petapixel.com/2020/08/31/son...-month-report/


Shocking! Sony responding to market needs. The dirty fiends.

Responding or creating?

Clearly responding to the vlogger market. It would be fair to say they
(accidentally?) created a camera class for that market a couple/few
years ago - but the latest cameras are responding to that market by
making up in areas where those cameras were very good but not great for
that. Now it looks like they're honing in.

The only benefit I can see to a smaller camera body while maintaining the current trend toward hulking FF lenses is that when you carry such a camera, the lens weight will cause it to droop downward, making the camera being carried technically less prone to bump into objects...


Bang! You NAILED their marketing analysis perfectly. As IF you stole
the actual market strategy docs from Sony.

Sony to put more pressure on its APS line with APS-sized FF
 

On 2020-09-05 04:57, Alfred Molon wrote:
In article ,
says...
Clearly responding to the vlogger market.

And you need a full frame camera for vlogs - APS-C is not good
enough?

That would depend on the vlog.

Sony to put more pressure on its APS line with APS-sized FF
 

On 9/5/2020 4:57 AM, Alfred Molon wrote:
In article ,
says...
Clearly responding to the vlogger market.

And you need a full frame camera for vlogs - APS-C is not good
enough?

I think some definitions have changed from the days of film. The digital
idea of "full frame" makes no sense in the physical size of film frames.
So, I take it to mean that it retains the full _perspective_ of a lens
rather than the cropped view that an APS-C sensor would normally yield.

A related example is how some describe the focal length of their lens. A
100mm lens doesn't get the magnification of a longer focal length lens
just because its field of view is cropped.

--
best regards,

Neil

Sony to put more pressure on its APS line with APS-sized FF
 

On Sep 5, 2020, Alan Browne wrote
(in article ):

On 2020-09-05 04:57, Alfred Molon wrote:
In ,
says...
Clearly responding to the vlogger market.

And you need a full frame camera for vlogs - APS-C is not good
enough?

That would depend on the vlog.

....er, or what the vlogger/vloggist/vloginator is trying to sell.

For now I am sticking to APS-C with my reasonable investment in pretty good glass.

--
Regards,
Savageduck

Sony to put more pressure on its APS line with APS-sized FF
 

On 2020-09-05 08:55, Neil wrote:
On 9/5/2020 4:57 AM, Alfred Molon wrote:
In article ,
says...
Clearly responding to the vlogger market.

And you need a full frame camera for vlogs - APS-C is not good
enough?

I think some definitions have changed from the days of film. The digital
idea of "full frame" makes no sense in the physical size of film frames.
So, I take it to mean that it retains the full _perspective_ of a lens
rather than the cropped view that an APS-C sensor would normally yield.

Fullframe still means 35mm film sized frames.

Sony to put more pressure on its APS line with APS-sized FF
 

On 9/5/2020 10:12 AM, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2020-09-05 08:55, Neil wrote:
On 9/5/2020 4:57 AM, Alfred Molon wrote:
In article ,
says...
Clearly responding to the vlogger market.

And you need a full frame camera for vlogs - APS-C is not good
enough?

I think some definitions have changed from the days of film. The
digital idea of "full frame" makes no sense in the physical size of
film frames. So, I take it to mean that it retains the full
_perspective_ of a lens rather than the cropped view that an APS-C
sensor would normally yield.

Fullframe still means 35mm film sized frames.

If so, what is the "frame" in a digital camera? It certainly is not an
ASP-C sensor.

--
best regards,

Neil

Sony to put more pressure on its APS line with APS-sized FF
 

On 2020-09-05 17:49, RichA wrote:
I think like a stills photog. Not a videographer or vlogger.

Digital still cameras evolving to do video is not much of a surprise.
The unexpected twist is how vloggers have gravitated to high quality
video. One vlogger who I used to watch on occasion, Casey Neistat, was
one of the trend setters for this. He started with pretty crappy
cameras and worked his way up. His talent is in story telling and
editing. Also quite the rags-to-riches story overall - his net worth is
somewhere north of $10M - all based on vlogging and offshoots.

One of his better efforts - NYC blizzard in 2016. (1080p ish)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRv7G7WpOoU

Another, really well done video (not Neistat): Also 1080p ish.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meYQUB-RLLc

Then 4K ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCPdIvXo2rU

In the end, it takes a very compelling still image to hold someone's
attention, whereas a well done video (edit! edit! edit!) can really grab
someone's attention.