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MikeWhy
February 12th 04, 01:31 AM
Following rafe's example for newbies, I'm posting the first neg to come out
of my new camera. It's not the work of art his was, but I'm still stunned to
speechlessness by the sharpness and detail. For a short while, these images
will be viewable at:

http://homepage.interaccess.com/~myoung/Woodsmith.jpg
http://homepage.interaccess.com/~myoung/WoodsmithDtl.jpg

Lens was the Sironar-N 210mm acquired from our own Gordon Hamm. HP5 at
400EI, f/16 at 4 sec., souped in TMAX; scanned on an Epson 3200PRO at 3200
dpi (200+ megapixels!). The levels and curves were as emitted from
SilverFast; I applied only a touch of USM before cropping and downsampling.
The halftone screen and 300 count weave is clearly delineated from 4 feet
away. It's difficult to say if I'm getting the full 3200 dpi, or if a lower
resolution wouldn't have held all the same information. In any case, the 4x5
scanned cleaner than roll film ever did. I think the stiffer base and
flatness is a big factor.

This is more an accomplishment than I can really say. The camera arrived
pretty busted up in transit. Both standards stripped out from their blocks,
and groundglass was all over the case bottom. A single dollar's worth of
bubblewrap would have made the difference. I bungied the standards
temporarily in place, and focused on a clear sheet of acetate through an 8x
loupe. It's difficult to compose an image this way, but I will say the image
through the loupe is incredibly bright and clear viewed this way. I'll
settle with the post office once the parts and the invoice gets here. (The
folks at Mamiya were a pleasure to deal with, BTW. They were very helpful
and extremely pleasant to work with, which took a lot of the sting out of
this.)

Thanks for all the help.

Mike.

jjs
February 12th 04, 03:28 AM
In article >, "MikeWhy"
> wrote:

> Following rafe's example for newbies, I'm posting the first neg to come out
> of my new camera. It's not the work of art his was, but I'm still stunned to
> speechlessness by the sharpness and detail. For a short while, these images
> will be viewable at:

Super, but I'm also interested in that table saw. :)

Raphael Bustin
February 12th 04, 05:43 AM
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 01:31:31 GMT, "MikeWhy" >
wrote:

>Following rafe's example for newbies, I'm posting the first neg to come out
>of my new camera. It's not the work of art his was, but I'm still stunned to
>speechlessness by the sharpness and detail. For a short while, these images
>will be viewable at:
>
>http://homepage.interaccess.com/~myoung/Woodsmith.jpg
>http://homepage.interaccess.com/~myoung/WoodsmithDtl.jpg
>
>Lens was the Sironar-N 210mm acquired from our own Gordon Hamm. HP5 at
>400EI, f/16 at 4 sec., souped in TMAX; scanned on an Epson 3200PRO at 3200
>dpi (200+ megapixels!). The levels and curves were as emitted from
>SilverFast; I applied only a touch of USM before cropping and downsampling.
>The halftone screen and 300 count weave is clearly delineated from 4 feet
>away. It's difficult to say if I'm getting the full 3200 dpi, or if a lower
>resolution wouldn't have held all the same information. In any case, the 4x5
>scanned cleaner than roll film ever did. I think the stiffer base and
>flatness is a big factor.
>
>This is more an accomplishment than I can really say. The camera arrived
>pretty busted up in transit. Both standards stripped out from their blocks,
>and groundglass was all over the case bottom. A single dollar's worth of
>bubblewrap would have made the difference. I bungied the standards
>temporarily in place, and focused on a clear sheet of acetate through an 8x
>loupe. It's difficult to compose an image this way, but I will say the image
>through the loupe is incredibly bright and clear viewed this way. I'll
>settle with the post office once the parts and the invoice gets here. (The
>folks at Mamiya were a pleasure to deal with, BTW. They were very helpful
>and extremely pleasant to work with, which took a lot of the sting out of
>this.)


I didn't have to deal with a busted-up camera, thank goodness.
I feel for you, really. Where does Mamiya come into this story?
What kind of camera is this, anyway?

You did your own processing, so give yourself another pat on the
back for that.

Can't argue with the raw information in 20 square inches of film.
Very impressive, indeed.


rafe b.
http://www.terrapinphoto.com

MikeWhy
February 13th 04, 08:45 AM
"jjs" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, "MikeWhy"
> > wrote:
>
> > Following rafe's example for newbies, I'm posting the first neg to come
out
> > of my new camera. It's not the work of art his was, but I'm still
stunned to
> > speechlessness by the sharpness and detail. For a short while, these
images
> > will be viewable at:
>
> Super, but I'm also interested in that table saw. :)

That saw table looks like a for sure addition if this ucky weather holds. It
replaces the contractor saw legs with a dust collection bin and duct, and
makes possible a longer fence.

Rafe, I couldn't find your post on my news server to respond to. I saw it on
our newsfeed in the office, but not on my home provider's server.

The camera is a Toyo 45C. MAC is Toyo's importer and distributor in the US.
The parts came in this afternoon; it's very reassuring that they're so
responsive and only a toll free call away. The ground glass is way grainier
and much dimmer than the makeshift clear acetate. I might try replacing it
with clear glass after all, and slap mylar against it to help compose. It
looks to be a three or four stop loss on ground glass.

I have a question, and need some help. Lacking a user's manual -- I didn't
think to order one while I was talking to MAC -- I haven't the foggiest if I
reassembled the camera correctly. The scales are facing every which way, and
no amount of staring at the standards will find a way to set the scales to
face rear while allowing access to the film holder. Also, the detents and
tension adjustments seem to be out of whack. I presume these have to be
finely set while reassembling the focus blocks. I guess I can use some help
if any one is local to me. I'm in the Chicago far west suburbs. Have wine;
will travel. Also have an open in-date box of Agfa APX100 that I don't much
care for. It's yours for helping this nugget on the road to righteousness.